Nill Grips with the "HK" logo are now available [Archive]

lunde

04-21-2009, 02:23 PM

Starting this year, Nill Grips is now offering some of their excellent HK wood grips bearing the "HK" logo, like what was included with the HK P7M8 Jubilee. Specifically, this option is now available for the P7 PSP (HK0258HK or HK0358HK), P7M8 (HK0458HK), and P9S (HK0158HK), all without a thumb rest. MacTec Enterprises, their US distributor, is now accepting orders for May delivery. See: http://mactec-militaryarms.com/nill-grips-hk.html

As you can see from the prices, the "HK" logo incurs a $26 surcharge, but for those who prefer to have the manufacturer logo, it is clearly worth the expense.

Also, I hosted their 2009 catalog here: http://lundestudio.com/PDF/nill-catalog-2009.pdf

jsdkms

04-21-2009, 05:46 PM

Thanks for the great info!

P7rancher

04-28-2009, 04:22 PM

Called MacTec and left a message but have not heard back from them. Anyone have any updated information?
P7:6200:

smfoushee

04-28-2009, 05:05 PM

Called MacTec and left a message but have not heard back from them. Anyone have any updated information?
P7:6200:

Interested as well, I'd like to order a pair this week if available.

xfilterx

04-28-2009, 05:10 PM

I ordered a set for my nickel P7M8 last week from their web site. Got an email on Friday morning saying that they shipped via priority mail. They should be here today.

smfoushee

04-28-2009, 05:31 PM

I ordered a set for my nickel P7M8 last week from their web site. Got an email on Friday morning saying that they shipped via priority mail. They should be here today.

Just to verify, you ordered the grips with the HK logo?

xfilterx

04-28-2009, 05:39 PM

Just to verify, you ordered the grips with the HK logo?

That is correct. Came to $147 out the door. I'll post a pic of them installed once I get them in.

lunde

04-28-2009, 06:07 PM

P7rancher, you wrote:Called MacTec and left a message but have not heard back from them.I suggest that you follow up with an email: mactec@windstream.net
Anyone have any updated information?The current word is that if you want to order a set of Nill grips that bear the "HK" logo (on both sides, by the way), the deadline to submit the order is May 8th. The shipment from Nill is expected to arrive in late May. Jim ships promptly, too.

In terms of which Nill grips can be ordered with the "HK" logo, it is best to check the MacTec Enterprises website.

xfilterx

04-28-2009, 06:17 PM

The shipment from Nill is expected to arrive in late May. Jim ships promptly, too.

Ken, are you sure about this? I got an email from MacTec on Friday saying my order shipped priority mail.

xfilterx

04-28-2009, 06:19 PM

I just looked on MacTec's website and noticed that the P7M8 nills with the HK logo were out of stock until late May. When I ordered last week, they showed them "in stock". So I must have gotten in while they still had them. :D

lunde

04-28-2009, 06:48 PM

I think that Jim received a small number of P7M8 grips with the "HK" logo, so as you suspected, you were able to snag a set.

RyuNoKai

04-28-2009, 07:20 PM

gorgeous.

SudS

04-28-2009, 10:02 PM

Never mind, I see the P7M13 on the web page.

mactec

04-29-2009, 12:35 AM

I think that Jim received a small number of P7M8 grips with the "HK" logo, so as you suspected, you were able to snag a set.

Yes, I did receive a small quantity of HK logo grips in April's shipment late last week, but the entire lot was sold out before the shipment arrived. The next scheduled shipment from Germany is late May. Special orders for non-stocking grips (P9S, etc.) need to be placed by May 8th to be included on the late May shipment. Usually it is not necessary to pre-order stocking items but due to the high demand, it probably would be a good idea to preorder the P7 and P7M8 grips before the 8th as well. With all the interest shifting to HK logo grips, I have changed the status of the non-logo P7 & P7M8 grips to Special Order Only.

It is stated on my website but in case anyone should overlook it, my online ordering system is hardcoded to charge the customer's credit card at the time of ordering...not when the item is shipped. If this is a problem for anyone, you can fax your order in and I won't process the card until the item is ready to ship. NOTE that this only applies to stocking items that are out of stock, as all special orders require advance payment anyway.

Thanks Ken for getting this info out in HKPro. I have really been too busy lately to do much promoting.

Best to all,

P7rancher

04-29-2009, 03:44 AM

Will the torx screws work with these grips for a P7 PSP and where can I find the torx screws to replace the slotted screws? Hope the "torx" spelling is correct.
Thanks
P7

mactec

04-29-2009, 11:13 AM

Will the torx screws work with these grips for a P7 PSP and where can I find the torx screws to replace the slotted screws? Hope the "torx" spelling is correct.
Thanks
P7

Nill grips for HK P7 series pistols utilize the HK factory grip screws for mounting and Nill does not provide grip screws for these models. I have heard of P7 owners utilizing various types of blued and stainless screws (including torx) of the correct size and thread pitch, found in hardware stores or other 3rd party sources. As long as the alternate screws conform to the HK factory standard, they should work with the P7 series Nill Grips.

Big Bore

04-29-2009, 02:12 PM

I just ordered a P7 and P9S set from you so now begins the worst part, the wait, and seeing if they could fill the order for May delivery. Keep your fingers crossed.

P7rancher

04-29-2009, 03:47 PM

http://mactec-militaryarms.com/hk0358.html

HK0358_ Nill Grips - HK P7 (HK0358HK with HK Logo)

Just ordered these grips for one of my P7 PW import guns.

Anyone know where to find the torx screws for the P7 grips?

P7

Big Bore

04-29-2009, 05:00 PM

Have you determined the size and pitch yet? If so, check Brownells. They have just about every size of gun screw you can imagine.

Shakey

04-29-2009, 08:57 PM

Nice idea, but my P7M8 wears a standard set of Nill grips and they are stunning without the logo. I also have a set on my Walther P5. They are well worth the money. For those with larger hands that complain about the P7 being too thin it's a good option and a great addition. The Nill grips are a bit wider than the stock grips.

lunde

04-30-2009, 01:27 PM

In my opinion, as the owner of three dozen sets of Nill grips, whether a particular set of Nill grips can be considered stunning is really a factor of the wood character and figure, and the logos, such as "HK" and "Walther," are really very nice touches that add to the grip. (To be accurate, my 36th set of Nill grips will be among Jim's May shipment.)

The bottom line is that for those who prefer to have a logo on the grip that matches the manufacturer of the handgun in question, it's a very nice option and definitely adds value to the handgun that wears them. I am grateful to Nill for offering this option, and for working with HK and Walther to make it happen. And, MacTec Enterprises has been outstanding in how they are representing Nill Grips in the US.

The surcharge for the logo is very reasonable, especially when you consider that HK P7M8 Jubilee take-off grips, which are identical to HK0458HK, have sold on GunBroker for as high as $500. Yep, $136.50 is quite reasonable.

P7rancher

04-30-2009, 03:50 PM

Ken

Sounds like it's time for a Nill grips family picture. Now that would be a screen saver to love!:300000000:

P7

xfilterx

04-30-2009, 04:13 PM

My Nills came in last night. 1 week turnaround time....not bad! Now I just need to find some time to install them. Ken, any tips for getting the factory grips off and getting these on?

Big Bore

04-30-2009, 04:33 PM

First of all, TAKE OFF THAT SLIDE! Do not try to force it up under the slide because you are sure to break them. I have heard a lot of people bemoan the fact that they broke their expensive wooden grips (and want the company to replace them free of charge) because no instructions came with them that states you need to take off the slide. I would think that as hard as it is to remove the plastic grips with the slide on that that might be a clue. But I suspect those same people would have trouble even if instructions were included. You know the type, couldn't pour water out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.
With the slide off it is pretty simple. Just remove the screws and the grip panels come right off, at least all of mine have.

smfoushee

04-30-2009, 04:37 PM

xfilterx

04-30-2009, 04:46 PM

P7rancher

04-30-2009, 05:50 PM

I'd love to get a pair of these, but have to know, other than the aesthetic appeal they add do these grips add any to the overall width of the grip? Does the stippling afford for a better grip than the stock panels? Will this make any noticeable difference (positive or negative) when I use my P7 as my CCW?

Yes, they will slightly increase the overall width of the grip and yes, the ones I have held provide a more secure grip. These are both positives to me, but I have not yet CCW with the wooden grips so time will tell.

P7

smfoushee

05-01-2009, 02:20 AM

Yes, they will slightly increase the overall width of the grip and yes, the ones I have held provide a more secure grip. These are both positives to me, but I have not yet CCW with the wooden grips so time will tell.

P7

Thanks! That is what I was looking for.

EdMan63

05-01-2009, 07:02 PM

So little funds and so much to do. I most certainly will get a set for my P7's eventually. Good tip about removing the slide. Need to remember that.

xfilterx

05-02-2009, 10:37 PM

Finally got around to mounting my new nills onto my nickel P7M8. Granted my picture taking skills aren't want Ken's are but you get the idea:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/wordsofwarrecords/IMG_4535.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/wordsofwarrecords/IMG_4536.jpg

One odd thing I did notice about the nills is that there's no hole cut for the rod that goes through the magwell. You can clearly see these holes in the factory black grips here:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/wordsofwarrecords/IMG_4538.jpg

But if you look at the mounted nills, there's an excessive amount of space in between the grip and the frame near the magwell because the nills don't have these holes:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/wordsofwarrecords/IMG_4537.jpg

A little bummed about this considering the reputation these grips bring with them. This is something that should have been accounted for.

P7rancher

05-02-2009, 10:57 PM

xfilterx

05-02-2009, 11:05 PM

Something is not right. Their milling techniques should have easily accounted for the rod. Also, the stress that puts on the wood cannot be a good thing.

Give MacTec a call. Anxious to know what you find out.
P7

I agree. I took the wood grips off to see what the deal was, that's when I saw that there was no hole. When I took the grips off, you could clearly tell that there's a lot of stress being put on the wood. So much so that there's a small round indentation on the wood from the rod on each grip. :mad:

Carrots

05-03-2009, 12:36 AM

I have been toying with the idea of getting a pair of these for one of my Sigs, and was rather on the fence as to whether they really are worth the money. I'd be interested to hear what Nill say, not fitting right certainly isn't what I would expect.

mactec

05-03-2009, 02:14 AM

Finally got around to mounting my new nills onto my nickel P7M8. Granted my picture taking skills aren't want Ken's are but you get the idea:

One odd thing I did notice about the nills is that there's no hole cut for the rod that goes through the magwell. You can clearly see these holes in the factory black grips here:

But if you look at the mounted nills, there's an excessive amount of space in between the grip and the frame near the magwell because the nills don't have these holes:

A little bummed about this considering the reputation these grips bring with them. This is something that should have been accounted for.

This is definitely a factory defect so return them and I will get them replaced for you in the May shipment. Since I am sold out of the new HK logo P7 grips, I can't examine any more of them to see if this is an isolated case or if Nill forgot to dial that detail in to the new CNC pattern. The pin holes have always been machined in the non-logo version of these grips. I will get with my factory rep on Monday and see what the situtation is, but definitely return these for replacement. I apologize on the behalf of Nill for the inconvenience.

xfilterx

05-03-2009, 02:58 AM

This is definitely a factory defect so return them and I will get them replaced for you in the May shipment. Since I am sold out of the new HK logo P7 grips, I can't examine any more of them to see if this is an isolated case or if Nill forgot to dial that detail in to the new CNC pattern. The pin holes have always been machined in the non-logo version of these grips. I will get with my factory rep on Monday and see what the situtation is, but definitely return these for replacement. I apologize on the behalf of Nill for the inconvenience.

What a drag. So now I have to pay for shipping to send them back and I have to wait another month for the new ones? :mad:

They'll be in the mail on Monday.

mactec

05-03-2009, 03:36 AM

What a drag. So now I have to pay for shipping to send them back and I have to wait another month for the new ones? :mad:

They'll be in the mail on Monday.

You will be reimbursed for your shipping cost...I can't do anything about the wait.

P7rancher

05-03-2009, 03:52 AM

You will be reimbursed for your shipping cost...I can't do anything about the wait.

This is fair, Sh***t happens and lets hope that Nill and MacTec get this fixed. Hard to believe this happened to only one set of grips but hope that is all that was affected.:confused:
P7

xfilterx

05-03-2009, 05:18 AM

You will be reimbursed for your shipping cost...I can't do anything about the wait.

I'm not worried about the couple of bucks I'll spend to send it back. I suppose I'm just bummed I have to wait again.

lunde

05-03-2009, 02:41 PM

To show that the HK0458 grips should have the relief hole on both sides for the squeeze-cocker pivot pin, I just took a quick-and-dirty snapshot of my set of HK0458 grips (without the "HK" logos):

http://lundestudio.com/photos/hk0458-back.jpg

It is great that MacTec Enterprises is on this.

P7rancher

05-03-2009, 04:12 PM

Ken, you have given me a new standard to strive for in my photography, "Quick and dirty".

Now tell me how you do it?
P7 :63000:

lunde

05-03-2009, 04:53 PM

These really were quick and dirty photos. I bumped the ISO way up, to 1600, I think, and used a large aperture so that I could do it handheld. I didn't care much about lighting. The depth of field is extremely shallow due to the large aperture. Anyway, my point was to show that the Nill HK0458 (and HK0458HK) grips are intended to have the relief holes for the squeeze cocker pivot pin.

OLZKOOL

05-04-2009, 12:58 AM

thanks for the post looks like ill be getting them early june

mactec

05-04-2009, 10:40 PM

I agree. I took the wood grips off to see what the deal was, that's when I saw that there was no hole. When I took the grips off, you could clearly tell that there's a lot of stress being put on the wood. So much so that there's a small round indentation on the wood from the rod on each grip. :mad:

I heard back from my Nill factory rep today and your grips appear to be some sort of anomaly. They have checked the P7M8 logo grips they have in stock and all have the pin relief holes milled. Also, I have not heard from any of the other customers that received the first batch, saying their grips have this problem...of course it is possible that others have not noticed yet.

When I receive your grips back, I will take a photo of the missing hole area and email to Nill and they will do further investigation. In any event, your grips will be replaced with the next shipment as stated previously.

xfilterx

05-04-2009, 11:00 PM

I heard back from my Nill factory rep today and your grips appear to be some sort of anomaly. They have checked the P7 logo grips they have in stock and all have the pin relief holes milled. Also, I have not heard from any of the other customers that received the first batch, saying their grips have this problem...of course it is possible that others have not noticed yet.

When I receive your grips back, I will take a photo of the missing hole area and email to Nill and they will do further investigation. In any event, your grips will be replaced with the next shipment as stated previously.

Figures I get the anomaly. All on the same day:

Nill grips won't fit correctly because they're missing the pin relief holes
Magpul MBUS site won't fit behind my VLTOR CASV-EL
Both B&T clone and MFI mounts won't fit onto my CA94

What next? :confused:

P7rancher

05-04-2009, 11:36 PM

Figures I get the anomaly. All on the same day:

Nill grips won't fit correctly because they're missing the pin relief holes
Magpul MBUS site won't fit behind my VLTOR CASV-EL
Both B&T clone and MFI mounts won't fit onto my CA94

What next? :confused:

As long as you or your significant other is not having morning sickness, then things will be OK.:100000:
P7

lunde

05-04-2009, 11:51 PM

Anomalies come in threes, so I think you're okay. ;)

xfilterx

05-05-2009, 12:24 AM

As long as you or your significant other is not having morning sickness, then things will be OK.:100000:
P7

Oh geez, don't say that. I already have 4 linoleum lizards, I don't need another.

Big Bore

05-05-2009, 12:28 AM

Figures I get the anomaly. All on the same day:

Nill grips won't fit correctly because they're missing the pin relief holes
Magpul MBUS site won't fit behind my VLTOR CASV-EL
Both B&T clone and MFI mounts won't fit onto my CA94

What next? :confused:

One things for damned sure, don't buy a lottery ticket!

Look at it this way, tomorrow has got to be better! Good luck.

mactec

05-08-2009, 11:20 AM

UPDATE:

Upon further review, Nill has determined that there are probably a small number of these "missing holes" P7M8 HK logo grips that were shipped out from an early production run. Evidently this was caused by the cutting tool required for completing these holes, having fell out, broken, etc., from the milling machine sometime during the production run.

So anyone that has received a set of these grips that are missing the pivot pin relief holes, please contact me for arrangements to have them replaced.

/

JoeyBones

05-09-2009, 12:20 AM

MacTec is one heck of a stand-up guy to do business with, and this thread should illustrate that fact for all to see...

That said, I think it is way cool that Nill decided to make this limited run of HK grips - And it also makes me glad that I sold my own set back in like 2006 or whenever (when they were more scarce than hen's teeth) for $350+ (Back when HK-USA had about 160 sets of extras originally intended as replacements for Jubilee P7M8's - or so the story goes - But I did get them direct from HK for about $155, IIRC)...

It's really the only time I ever tried to make a profit (however small) off anything gun-related... Initially, I wanted to use the HK Nill grips for carry, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it... Since that time, I have even sold my other regular Nills for my P7's, b/c I simply prefer the thinner, flatter factory plastic panels for EDC... The Nills are way prettier, and do feel somewhat better in the hand, but the palm swell (IMO) somewhat defeats one of the P7M8's main advantages for CCW - its slim profile...

But I can certainly attest to the quality of Nill's product and MacTec's service... Top notch all the way...

Nice pics BTW, guys!

Regards,

Bones

Big Bore

06-01-2009, 11:18 PM

I Just got my grips today for the P7 and P9S .45T. Words cannot express how much more personality they give the pistols. Costly, you bet. Worth every darned penny!
Thanks MacTec!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/BiggBore/P9S-45T-Nill.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/BiggBore/P7-Nill.jpg

Carrots

06-01-2009, 11:42 PM

Very nice indeed, shoot with them in good health Sir :380:

SudS

06-01-2009, 11:50 PM

I ordered (and received today) the same grips (and my M13 has also been refinished). Ironic.

I Just got my grips today for the P7 and P9S .45T. Words cannot express how much more personality they give the pistols. Costly, you bet. Worth every darned penny!
Thanks MacTec!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/BiggBore/P9S-45T-Nill.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/BiggBore/P7-Nill.jpg

mactec

06-02-2009, 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=Big Bore;780509]I Just got my grips today for the P7 and P9S .45T. Words cannot express how much more personality they give the pistols. Costly, you bet. Worth every darned penny!
Thanks MacTec!

Thank you for your business BB. Your photo of the P9S makes me wish I had one!

getback

06-04-2009, 12:08 AM

I received 4 sets this week, HK logo for P7M8 and P9S with and without thumbrest and Sig P220 European. All look and fit great. Had the non-logo version with thumbrest for P7M8 already and the new ones are darker wood. Both look good imho. The P9S are a huge improvement over the standard plastic grips. The extra width really helps.

hiyabrad

06-08-2009, 04:55 AM

First of all, TAKE OFF THAT SLIDE! Do not try to force it up under the slide because you are sure to break them..........

TAKE OFF THAT SLIDE! Absolutely g*dd*mn right. Unless you were goin' all the way. Kurtz got off the boat. He split from the whole f**kin' program.

I just tried per the enclosed Nill instructions to install and......crack.....a small inside piece just cracked right off. It was a close one to having to buy a new pair. Then I read this post and Big Bore's suggestion and like magic, went on smooth as butter. Small piece that came off makes no difference in function or fit!

I would think that as hard as it is to remove the plastic grips with the slide on that that might be a clue. But I suspect those same people would have trouble even if instructions were included. You know the type, couldn't pour water out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel......................

Easy now, I was following factory instructions and if they said take the slide off, I would not be posting now.

With the slide off it is pretty simple. Just remove the screws and the grip panels come right off, at least all of mine have.

Absolutely g*dd*mn right.

Thanks BB!

And thanks Jim from MacTech! The grips are beautiful. Now just get Nill to edit the instructions with BB's American ingenuity.

Big Bore

06-08-2009, 01:05 PM

hiyabrad

06-08-2009, 05:55 PM

You mean the instructions did not have you removing the slide??? I was a little surprised that the instructions came with them but you know, and I sort of hate to admit this because it puts me in the pouring water out of a boot club, I did not open them and read them. Now, I am going to claim it was because I have done this quite a few times and did not need them, but this is a total surprise to me that first, the instructions were included and second, that the first thing they tell you, or in this case didn't tell you, is to remove the slide. That's just goofy and if one breaks the grips following their instructions and was not told to remove the slide, then they SHOULD replace them. Including instructions that are almost sure to cause damage is worse than no instructions at all IMO.

Allow me to now open mouth and insert foot for all to see.

After I read your new post above this morning, I went back to re-read the instructions one more time just to make sure I did not miss the "remove slide from frame" part. And again, I did not see it.

Then I decided to read the obligitory "Saftey Notice!" section just above the "Removing the old Grips" section just to check there. I mean we all know what it says, remove mag, rack slide to check chamber, make sure you are unloaded, etc., right??

Only the last sentence in that section says, " In order to have the grips mounted on the P7 / P7M8 you have to remove first the bolt from the frame."

I never thought to look in the Saftey Notice section for install instructions. But there it is in black and white.

So, don't ask me how to pour water from a boot, because I have no idea even after reading the instructions!

SudS

06-08-2009, 06:09 PM

Not only would I not call a slide a "bolt," but I sure wouldn't place that instruction in the safety section.

mactec

06-08-2009, 10:03 PM

I have brought the terminology of "bolt" vs "slide" to Nill's attention and hopefully they will revise their instructions soon.

hiyabrad

06-08-2009, 10:12 PM

I have brought the terminology of "bolt" vs "slide" to Nill's attention and hopefully they will revise their instructions soon.

Jim,

That is great, I would also have them move that instruction out of the Saftey Section and have it#1 on the removing the old grips section, or better than that, as its own 1st step in its own section.

uranus

09-26-2009, 09:23 PM

I received a beautiful set of Nill grips with the HK logo last week from mactec for my P7M8. Easy ordering and super fast shipment and delivery.

However, I can't install the grips. I have never had a difficulty removing or installing the stock grips, and I always removed the "bolt" prior to removing and installing grips.

With the Nill grips, I only tried to install the right grip, and I promptly snapped the two ends from the grip. The breaks were very clean, and I glued the pieces back. There is not any detectible damage to the grips.

How do these grips install? These grips are not missing the pins holes. The factory grips easily slide into place. The right Nill grip did not. I haven't tried to install the left grip.