You won't see this on tonight news...

[VS6525]

Armed Student Kills Home Intruder - saves 10ppl from being raped and murdered.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html

This should be the headline news everywhere...but why do I have a feeling we won't see it tonight?

[GuyKeefer]

Armed Student Kills Home Intruder - saves 10ppl from being raped and murdered.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html

This should be the headline news everywhere...but why do I have a feeling we won't see it tonight?

Well, cheers for the kid who took action, but I'm interested in knowing who the firearm belonged to (they just say it was in a backpack, not that it was the defender's own) and who hit the woman that was injured.

It's all well and good to defend yourself and others, but it's not the best idea to be blasting away in a crowded room if you don't know how to properly use the weapon. You might actually end up in prison with the perp for accidentally killing someone.

[AviatorDave]

It's all well and good to defend yourself and others, but it's not the best idea to be blasting away in a crowded room if you don't know how to properly use the weapon. You might actually end up in prison with the perp for accidentally killing someone.

Or in a church looking up at the ceiling because you didn't do what was necessary to defend yourself and everyone else in the room.

[Dossiell]

haha i bet the it was nothing buy high-points and old dirty glocks in that room.

[rext]

WOW This is the very reason I carry everyday.I feel naked without my KelTec 380 in my front pocket.Good for him and I hope this makes mainstream news.

[MaverickH1]

I particularly liked the part where he pulled it out of a backpack.

Sounds like someone has been carrying to school...

[GuyKeefer]

Or in a church looking up at the ceiling because you didn't do what was necessary to defend yourself and everyone else in the room.

Just because you are doing what is necessary doesn't mean it's going to end well either. Possibly the kid has had training with firearms, has been to the range, and knows how to shoot correctly. Maybe he was just some kid who had acquired a handgun somehow, who knows? They don't talk about the defender in the news article.

I am just interested in hearing some more details about the shooting, such as whose rounds were hitting the women in the room, was it actually the kid's gun or someone else's. And while I'm sure all those kids are thankful for the kid for what he did, if he had accidentally taken out one of those girls too, I'm fairly certain he wouldn't be feeling very good about himself right now.

[AviatorDave]

I am just interested in hearing some more details about the shooting, such as whose rounds were hitting the women in the room, was it actually the kid's gun or someone else's. And while I'm sure all those kids are thankful for the kid for what he did, if he had accidentally taken out one of those girls too, I'm fairly certain he wouldn't be feeling very good about himself right now.

Yes, he would feel terrible. But that sure beats feeling nothing because he's dead due to inaction. And the other people still alive would be greatful.

It seems that given the choice between almost certain death for everyone, and risking that a few of the innocents are shot while saving 8 others, you're advocating doing nothing because the one person capable of defending everyone doesn't have enough training? Maybe I'm missing your point.

You are using the EXACT arguments people that are against concealed-carry permits use - that there's too great a risk that a bystander is shot while the permit holder defends their own life, so only police with more training should be allowd to carry.

[rext]

Yea,much better to be raped,pilaged and killed.He will probably be sued into oblivion by the NAACP,ACLU,PETA,WHO, and the property owner for the mess anyway? What would an incidental victim matter at that point.

[MaverickH1]

Same kind of argument that gets said against carrying on campus, as well. Somehow it's worse if there is a slight chance that an innocent person gets hit by a concealed carry defender instead of allowing 10-30 to be executed by the psychotic and cowardly shooter.

[GuyKeefer]

Perhaps I'm not conveying more thoughts correctly into text.

I am not against CCW and am not against people defending themselves as I myself have a concealed carry permit and am also in the military, so I understand the need of the many over the few.

What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that if I was the hostage in the situation, as selfish as it sounds, I think I'd rather be alive and degraded and robbed then be dead because the guy coming to my rescue saw a gun and decided to go running into the situation guns a-blazing. That's why I want to know if the gun was his and who shoot the other hostages, that's all.

It seems I've already made enough of an ass out myself, so I'll go ahead and exit stage left.

[AviatorDave]

Perhaps I'm not conveying more thoughts correctly into text.

I am not against CCW and am not against people defending themselves as I myself have a concealed carry permit and am also in the military, so I understand the need of the many over the few.

What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that if I was the hostage in the situation, as selfish as it sounds, I think I'd rather be alive and degraded and robbed then be dead because the guy coming to my rescue saw a gun and decided to go running into the situation guns a-blazing. That's why I want to know if the gun was his and who shoot the other hostages, that's all.

It seems I've already made enough of an ass out myself, so I'll go ahead and exit stage left.

Nah, you didn't do that. I think I see where the difference is, and it's in the interpretation of the story. I was working under the assumption that when the one robber asked the other if he had enough bullets, it was because they were planning on killing everyone in the room. You were under the assumption that they were just going to rob them, rape the women, and then leave. And as horrible as it must be to be raped, it is preferable to death by a botched rescue attempt. I'm with you now.

[VS6525]

Perhaps I'm not conveying more thoughts correctly into text.

I am not against CCW and am not against people defending themselves as I myself have a concealed carry permit and am also in the military, so I understand the need of the many over the few.

What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that if I was the hostage in the situation, as selfish as it sounds, I think I'd rather be alive and degraded and robbed then be dead because the guy coming to my rescue saw a gun and decided to go running into the situation guns a-blazing. That's why I want to know if the gun was his and who shoot the other hostages, that's all.

It seems I've already made enough of an ass out myself, so I'll go ahead and exit stage left.

I think we need to look at some history and we will find plenty of murders "execution-style" that have occured in the past...below are just a few links for your reference:

http://gothamist.com/2007/08/06/three_killed_ex.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy's_massacre

http://www.webloggin.com/tinley-park-mall-shooting-5-women-killed-execution-style-ap-skips-description-of-suspect-at-large/

When you have a gun pointed at you and especially when the SOBs are counting how many bullets they have I'd be hard pressed not to assume they are going to kill everyone so that no witnesses are left to whatever the hideous things they were planning to do...

I also think how I would've reacted if I knew my gf was about to be raped by this thug...how I would've looked in her eyes after knowing that I had a gun and did not do anything...that if IF we are still alive...

It's a very hard decision to make just by thinking about it...imagine what was going through this man's head during those moments... When you are confronted with possibility of violent attack and death, you may beg and cry and submit to all the possible humiliation but there is still no guarantee that you won't end up dead.

[MueveloNYC]

too bad this didn't get any better press. CCW student saves his 10 friends from being raped and executed:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html