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H&K 4 LIFE
06-14-2009, 01:30 PM
Just got my Comp-Tac M-Tac and love it.

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However, one thing I am noticing when switching from leather to kydex is the right side slide release lever on the P2000SK, that notoriously rattles, now has enough room to do just that. With the leather, the release was pressed into the frame so it didn't have enough room to wiggle and create a rattle.

It is kind of driving me nuts and I am going to have to figure out a way to rectify it. No fault of the holsters though.

Anyone fix this issue? Has anyone just removed the right side lever?

faawrenchbndr
06-14-2009, 01:42 PM
So the lever is contacting the kydex, making the rattle?
Try placing some "mole-skin" on the inside of the kydex body.
It's soft and smooth enough to not adversely wear the lever, and
may provide enough pressure to stop the unwanted sounds.

Big Bore
06-14-2009, 04:49 PM
My God, what are you doing, wearing that thing while jumping on a trampoline?;)

SIGtrarian
06-14-2009, 05:00 PM
Clear finger-nail polish in the splines, or stick a thin strip of the fuzzy side of Velcro between the right side slide stop and frame.

Mrs_Esterhouse
06-14-2009, 06:15 PM
How about a recall protest in front of HK's HQ in Columbus, GA? ;)

H&K 4 LIFE
06-14-2009, 09:39 PM
So the lever is contacting the kydex, making the rattle?...

No, the right side slide release lever always rattled against the frame on my P2000SK. However, the leather holster pushed the lever against the frame preventing it from rattling. The groove on the M-Tac is large enough that it allows the slide release to move freely and therefore rattle.

My God, what are you doing, wearing that thing while jumping on a trampoline?;)

You know, I only noticed in my completely quiet house early in the morning. Once I got to work (and the insanity ensued) the rattling was not audible.

Clear finger-nail polish in the splines, or stick a thin strip of the fuzzy side of Velcro between the right side slide stop and frame.

Good suggestions. I did put a little piece of electrical tape on the frame under the slide release and that lessened the amount of rattling noise it produced.

How about a recall protest in front of HK's HQ in Columbus, GA? ;)

Road trip? :D

gtmtnbiker98
06-15-2009, 02:31 AM
How about a recall protest in front of HK's HQ in Columbus, GA? ;)Why? Does it make you shoot crooked or something?

CPshooter
06-15-2009, 04:39 AM
In response to the finger nail polish suggestion:

I tried it and it worked temporarily, but it was obvious that it would flake off eventually. Right after it was dry I was able to flake it off with my finger nail. I'm sure it wouldn't have taken long to come off after a couple range sessions had I left it on there. Initially, I put it on the splines only, but after I realized it wouldn't be a permanent fix it only took a toothpick to remove it all.

I got so annoyed with it that I just removed the right side lever completely. I was against doing this at first, but I figured I'd rather have it look bad than rattle all the time. Sure, it doesn't affect accuracy or reliability. But it's annoying when you can see and hear that stupid thing moving around all the time. Someone in another thread made a good analogy with a luxury car. Wouldn't you be upset if the glovebox in your BMW or Audi rattled every time you drove it? I know I would.

I still haven't called H&K to see what they will do about this issue on my P2000sk. I feel like there's no reason they couldn't find a new slide release lever that was machined to better tolerances and replace mine. I know I'm not the only one who would like a replacement lever set.

chayse
06-16-2009, 06:11 PM
Does it only rattle in the holster? If so, the moleskin idea should work. Place a little strip of it on the holster in the channel that the lever rides in. If there is still too much room, you could try the loop side of velcro in the same channel. You probably just need a little bulk to keep the lever still. I don't think i would like to put anything on the frame or lever itself.

H&K 4 LIFE
06-16-2009, 07:08 PM
Per another members suggestion, I did end up using the soft side of some velcro and stuck it to the inside on the holster. I also removed the small piece of e-tape I put on the frame under the lever.

Problem is now solved. Thanks to all who helped. :)

Shakey
06-17-2009, 03:38 AM
Are you jogging rather than walking, or do you hop from spot to spot? This rattle issue baffles me. Unless it rattles as you creep around a corner to do a room check and screams out "I've got a gun and here I am", how loud can this be? If I grab a USP and shake the pistol briskly the magazine rattles. Guess I just don't get it. My old bones make more noise than any pistol I carry. They may not know I'm carrying, but they'll know I'm pushing 60.

orfeo
06-17-2009, 04:47 AM
I don't blame H&K 4 LIFE and others who are discomfited by the rattle on their P2000 slide release. I don't happen to own one myself, but if I did, I'd probably remove that lefty slide release. HK could have done better on this one.

The other night, I thought I heard a very strange sound while I was in bed reading. All the lights in the house were off except for the one in my bedroom which I was reading by. I switched off the light, gripped my USP Compact 45, and quietly tiptoed to the bedroom doorway to listen more closely in the dark while my eyes acclimated to the very low light. As I was waiting and listening in deafening silence, I must have tipped my pistol slightly, such that the nylon buffer slid from one end to the other of the recoil assembly. In that dark, quiet moment, the sound that it made seemed as loud as a train going by (and it didn't make me feel very good). The slide release on a P2000 would probably have even sounded much worse in that moment, had it been moved in such a way as to make a sound.

Skang
06-17-2009, 07:37 AM
Does other companies make gun this way too? free moving parts or enough gap to connect metal to metal?

this is pretty turn-down on H&K.

my 1st pistol was going to be was USP or P-series.

H&K 4 LIFE
06-17-2009, 04:24 PM
Are you jogging rather than walking, or do you hop from spot to spot? This rattle issue baffles me...

No jogging, hopping, or skipping merrily here. :D

I initially noticed the sound in my completely quiet house early in the morning. Once you are out-and-about the sounds of everyday life drown it out to where it is a of little concern.

By the same respect, I don't think a rig this expensive should rattle at all. But if a 1 cent piece of velcro solves the problem, I am satisfied.

The P2000SK .40 still shoots, handles, and carrys/conceals better then anything else that shares it's same size/weight. It would take alot more then a little rattle for me to consider switching to something else. :)

...In that dark, quiet moment, the sound that it made seemed as loud as a train going by (and it didn't make me feel very good). The slide release on a P2000 would probably have even sounded much worse in that moment, had it been moved in such a way as to make a sound.

I agree. When it's quiet, small noises sound big. :)

Does other companies make gun this way too? free moving parts or enough gap to connect metal to metal?

this is pretty turn-down on H&K.

my 1st pistol was going to be was USP or P-series.

This is not metal on metal contact. It is the metal slide release rattling against the polymer frame. The USP has a different slide release, it is not the ambi design shared by the P2000 and P30. Because of this the slide release on my USP's does not rattle, nor have I ever heard of this being reported.

If you were to discount HK pistols over this small issue you would be missing out on some excellent firearms over something very menial and of little actual importance.

Before I switched to the Comp-Tac, I had no issue, and (I'll say once again) a small piece of velcro has solved said issue entirely. :)

SIGtrarian
06-17-2009, 05:26 PM
Does other companies make gun this way too? free moving parts or enough gap to connect metal to metal?

this is pretty turn-down on H&K.

my 1st pistol was going to be was USP or P-series.ALL firearms have something that rattles. Some loaded Glock magazines rattle if you don't do the "Austrian Stomp". I'm fairly anal when it comes to slide to frame fit, so much so that I only by handguns if I can examine them first. I don't order sight unseen, even new ones. The looseness of the right side levers on the P2000/P30 are so easy to remedy that it doesn't bother me at all. I have access to dark colored laminating tape that I stick on the frame under the lever to dampen movement. A couple of layers of any dark tape would probably work equally as well. 3M Electrical Tape (forget the cheap crap) comes to mind. Even if left as is, though, they're not that loud. I ain't a ninja, though. As someone mentioned in an earlier post, my creaking bones make louder noises.

Mrs_Esterhouse
06-18-2009, 08:16 PM
Why? Does it make you shoot crooked or something?

No, just noisy. I don't like bells on my guns.

LRHogFan
06-18-2009, 08:55 PM
I used a waxy type chain lube that I used to use for my KTM dirt bike. It was just sticky enough to keep the lever in place.

Tabsr
06-19-2009, 02:00 AM
Me, only wear leather, the green society natural holster.

chayse
06-19-2009, 04:29 PM
Per another members suggestion, I did end up using the soft side of some velcro and stuck it to the inside on the holster. I also removed the small piece of e-tape I put on the frame under the lever.

Problem is now solved. Thanks to all who helped. :)

Glad it worked out for you. (not taking credit as someone else mentioned it first)

Laserlips
08-02-2009, 09:08 PM
Clear finger-nail polish in the splines, or stick a thin strip of the fuzzy side of Velcro between the right side slide stop and frame.


FWIW:

The velcro temporary fix works..

Jesse