View Full Version : Replacement barrel: factory or Jarvis?
localizer11
07-22-2009, 12:46 AM
I'm trying to decide on a new replacement barrel for my USPf. 40SW. I may use the gun for uspsa competition. The cost of a factory HK and Jarvis barrel is essentially the same. Which would you get and why?
HKUSP84
07-22-2009, 03:06 PM
IMO I would go with the Factory HK barrel that way it will be a strait drop in barrel. This way you wont have to worry about getting the barrel fitted by a smith, your chances of running into that problem is greater when going with a aftermarket barrel...
+1 on the Heckler und Koch factory barrel - why does the current one need replacing...have you shot it out? I would shoot out the current one first...should go approx 100K rounds, save the money for ammo in the USPSA Matches. :)
396chevy
07-23-2009, 12:47 AM
Well are you going to use cast bullets? If so get the Jarvis and as far as I know Jarvis is a drop in replacement at least it was with my USP 45 match clone. Also with the Jarvis you have the option of getting it ported which may help recoil and muzzle rise on a 40 I know it helped with muzzle rise on mine. But I dont know if porting is legal in USPSA? On the other hand because the factory barrel has the polygonal rifling it will outlast the Jarvis which has the land and groove rifling, in long run as long as you don't use cast bullets.
waterhouse
07-23-2009, 05:27 PM
I have a Jarvis threaded barrel for my USP compact that I've been happy with. Dropped in just like a factory part. Lead bullets aren't a problem. I'd check availability on both and go with whichever one I could get sooner. Sometimes the Jarvis barrels have a bit of a backlog.
Big Bore
07-23-2009, 05:55 PM
IMO the Jarvis is every bit as good as the HK barrel. And if you are wanting to shoot cast bullets, the Jarvis is the only way to go. My Jarvis barrels shoot fully as well as the HK barrels for the same pistol. I have no reservations using or recommending Jarvis products. And you can get them with the HK o-ring groove if that matters to you.
Jarvis barrels can be had both ways. They are a true drop in if you order a drop in or you can send them your slide and they will hand fit it if you want absolutely the best accuracy it can offer. The o-ring in a drop in barrel would probably give you just as good a fit as the hand fitting without the cost. But truth be known, my Jarvis drop in CT barrel shot the same when it did not have the o-ring as it did after the o-ring was added. IMO the o-ring is mostly marketing but it is an option for those wanting it.
threefeathers
07-23-2009, 06:57 PM
Jarvis, you can use reloads and cut the cost of bullets. If you are going to compete you will need to reload, believe me.
N89549
07-25-2009, 02:24 PM
I have been waiting forever for HK to release more P2000 357SIG barrels, may give up and buy a Jarvis.
Plunky
07-25-2009, 03:03 PM
I have been waiting forever for HK to release more P2000 357SIG barrels, may give up and buy a Jarvis.
This what you are looking for? (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=618728)
Big Bore
07-25-2009, 06:11 PM
One is a damned fool if one does not jump on this like a duck on a June bug. It took Midway a year and a half to get in my .357 SIG barrel for my P2K. And now they have some, no waiting!
Man if they had one for the SK I'd be all over it.
N89549
07-25-2009, 07:14 PM
This what you are looking for? (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=618728)
Thanks! Just ordered one.
kraigster414
07-26-2009, 03:52 PM
'If you are wanting to shoot cast bullets, the Jarvis is the only way to go." BB, I am still riding the fence on this one. :)
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=798564#post798564
Lukas Koukal
07-26-2009, 05:49 PM
Kraigster itīs not only a question of whether it works or not, but how well. I donīt care what I feed my SK, as itīs no target gun. But from my experience it is a PITA to find just the right lead reload for my Expert, when the accuracy for target competition must not be compromised. Right now Iīm using 115gr flat-points, cast to 18HB hardness. Iīm able to get a sub-inch grouping at 25 yards with them. BUT any minor change - like .3mm different OAL or lighter/harder crimp and the resulting group can be four times as large. FMJ bullets give me more "margin" for reloading error in the polygonal rifling, just as a traditional rifling would offer for cast bullets. Thatīs why my Expert will get a new Jarvis steel soon. So back to answer Your question now - quality wise, I consider the options equal, but each has something different to offer.
kraigster414
07-26-2009, 07:07 PM
I hear you Lukas. Keep in mind though I don't shoot competitively but only for my own enjoyment and to stay proficient. In the case of my HK45c, I have found the 200 grain .452 H&G68 (a favorite of .45 ACP combat shooters for years) to be an ideal performer in my HK45c when loaded light with WW231 powder and shot at distances at around 15 yards or less. No question in my mind that if I shot competitively, I would choose differently. But I don't want to be accused of threadjacking so that's why I referred readers to the other thread I started today.
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