I hate H&K's

[BradaData]

Ever since I got my USPC 9mm I can not find another gun that im willing to fork out some money on. This gun ruined my gun buying expierence. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this gun. It is P-E-R-F-E-C-T. Before this I was a Glock guy. I loved my G19 and I shot it well. Now this usp spoiled me on accuracy and sight picture. The grip is perfect and I get a much more natural gip with out trying to readjust. Its the perfect size, recoil is non-exsistent, sight picture is flawless, time on target is a fraction of a second, acuracy is amazing, I can carry it cocked and locked, or DA, mag release is the best on the market, did I mention accuracy? And i love the mag release. Allot; I love it allot. This sucks, now I just want more H&K's nothing eles. There isnt a better pistol. I feel like I have betrayed gaston, but oh well he has enough money as it is. So what do I do now? Wich HK should I buy next? Im a die hard 9mm fan. Full sized usp perhaps? P2000? P2000sk when it is released? So many options its tearing me appart inside.

[hkpete]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif We all feel good after a confession! I'm a 9mm guy too! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Red Cobra]

If you are a 9mm fan, you must buy a P7M8. It's the best gun for CCW work. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nowhereman]

I agree with Red Cobra, you need to get a P7M8 now. BradaData, I know what you mean. The only other handgun I could justify buying after my HK's was my SS Colt Python Elite .357 Mag, only because HK doesn't make a revolver..
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[BradaData]

If they made a revolver they would put allot of people and companies out of bussiness. I held a p7 at the gun show on saturday. It felt nice but why are they so expensive? Do they not make them any more? The one I saw was around $950 I liked how it cocked it when i picket it up, very very cool.

[hatidua]

I was also once an ardent fan of the Glock 19 (had three of them), as well as the "baby" version of the same thing (still have one of those)......then I bought an HK USP Tac .45, then another USP Tac .45, then two USPc .45's. The disease can really pick up speed.

I have nothing against the 9x19, but once you get into punching .45 sized holes in things, the 9mm starts to pail a bit. Give it a try sometime when your checkbook isn't nearby /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[badfish]

.45 is the way to go for me too. The 9mm is just to small and not a very effective round IMO. .45 is the only way to go if you want that stop them dead power.

[Riskebznes]

If you like your USP you have to try the Tac. The trigger is alot better and the cool factor is just awesome. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[badfish]

would love to but they are illegal here in the Kaliban. current duty station is here so hopefully when i leave...

on an unrelated subject, Marine here 6 years, Sergeant, Infantry

[hkpete]

[ QUOTE ]
The 9mm is just to small and not a very effective round IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]Winchester Ranger +P+ load is a very effective round, I certainly wouldn't want to be in its path. I thought you would of liked 9mm since you have Parabellum in your signature /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Don't get me wrong, I do like .45ACP. I fired Magsafe Super Swat loads from a USP the other day, 2260fps, 731 ft lbs for a .45!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[badfish]

"SIC VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM" Latin
"If you want peace, prepare for war" English

I do have a 9mm Hi-point compact (you know hi-point if your in Ohio) and I am pistol qualifyed for the Marines (Beretta 92) but I just don't like the caliber. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it either, but if I had to chose between taking a .45 or a 9mm, I think you know the answer to that one.

[Enter]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The 9mm is just to small and not a very effective round IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]Winchester Ranger +P+ load is a very effective round, I certainly wouldn't want to be in its path. I thought you would of liked 9mm since you have Parabellum in your signature /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Don't get me wrong, I do like .45ACP. I fired Magsafe Super Swat loads from a USP the other day, 2260fps, 731 ft lbs for a .45!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

"para bellum" means "for war"

[Riskebznes]

Badfish, Semper Fi, Former Sergeant with six years active duty with VMGR 352. Keep up the fight and thanks for doing what you are doing for our country. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[badfish]

Semper Fi

[BradaData]

Im definatly thinking about the 45, but i ship out to lackland AFB on june 22 and I quit my job june 12 so money will be a little tight. I loved the way the USPC 45 felt in my hand too, very nice. Ammo price is an issue too. I guess if i started doing my own reloading it would drop the price dramastically. After i get settled where ever the AF stations me ill invest in the reloading equipment and then get a 45. Another question. Can any one explain the DAO trigger to me? What does it feel like? Is each trigger pull long? does it start from the beginning or from the half cocked posision? Thanks for all the info guys.

-BradaData

[Big Bore]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif YOU ARE SO SCREWED NOW!!! Welcome to the club of the HK black holes where all your spare change is going to start disappearing. Expert, Elite, Match, 9SD, P7-Mx...kiss your freaking money GOOD-"BUY" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Skyedawg]

[ QUOTE ]
YOU ARE SO SCREWED NOW!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

That said from a man who has 'been there, done that.'

I don't think of it that you're ruined. Rather, you've been saved. Mind you, there are still alot of very fine pistols out there.

If you like 9, get a HK in every model.
Once you like your salsa extra hot, move on up to the .45. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[jeray]

You have a compact, so I suggest something a little bigger, say the 9mm Expert, or the USP9SD. Sorry guys, but the elite is just ugly. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

The P7M8 is the gun you will one day trade that "Perfect" compact in on /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. It costs so much cause it is worth it. Sleek, sexy, sophisticated, reliable, low recoil, accurate, easy to operate, ambidextrious, and the safest carry weapon ever made. It will spawn in you a Cult-like devotion (http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi). /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[Orion]

If you keep telling people about them they'll get harder to find and more expensive! Cut it out already!

Whatever you do don't buy a P7. They're terrible! In fact, if you see one please let me know so that I might save the world from it.

[cueist]

get yourself one of the P7's then get a P9S, you'll thank me later!!!!!!

[h_kusp_45]

Welcome to the wonderful world of HK. My screen name says it all for me. Buy the way I was at Lackland for MP school in '91. Hey badfish, riskebznes...Semper Fi!

[hkpete]

[ QUOTE ]


I do have a 9mm Hi-point compact (you know hi-point if your in Ohio)

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah I know Hi Point, nothing I would own though unless I happened to find one in my mailbox!

[badfish]

its the wifeys target shooter. she isnt into guns that much but she does like her 9mm, for $85 you get what you pay for.

[eddyallenby]

9mm hurts! i dont care what anyone says, if someone was firing a 9mm at me i would GET THE F OUT OF THERE! No one is going to stand tall and proud if someone starts shooting a 9mm at them. i mean wasnt a .22 used on Bobby Kennedy? ask him if he thinks 9mm is a wimpy round (oh right the wimpy little .22 killed him). i like the .45 ACP, great round has a coolness factor of 100 (.40 S&W, is getting on my bad side, starting to think the only people that like that round are cops and F.B.I.)! but here is why i love the 9mm, and would only use that round if the tangos showed up at my house, it is because how can you fight the tangos, when you are busy fighting your "own", recoil, and muzzle flip! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

oh and another point, i really hate HK now, cause i need to save up for college (again), but am probably going to buy a USP 9mm soon, so there goes all my money! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[badfish]

hey if you can't handle the muzzle flip and the "kick" of the .45 than you should stick with the 9mm. personally I wouldn't want to trust a 9mm with my life when I could have a .45 guarding it. I know if a tango shows up at my door he is going down and staying down with 1 round.

[eddyallenby]

hey if you can handle the .45 then more power to you. i just feel 9mm is under-rated, and a 9mm in the body or chest ( i dont need to mention head), is going to drop and hurt anyone in its path. i mean i cant be the only one who finds the .45 to be "too powerful"(there I said it), i cant think of any nation whos military uses the .45, all have gone to 9mm or something close. any hoo, .45 bullets cost too much, and 9mm you can put your whole clip into the tango without much effort (or muzzle flip)! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif (i dont recomend doing that guys).

note to self---- dont break into badfish's place. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[badfish]

i was just poking fun with you, i wouldn't want to be taking 9mm to anywhere in my body. but .45 is the ultimate knock down stay down round.

[eddyallenby]

I hear you! to tell you the truth i am not that against the .45 ACP round, i have been thinking about trading my USP40 in for a tact .45. the .40S&W is kind of tricky to shoot, dont like the snap. hey if you want the ultimate knock down the tangos gun, get a .44 magnum, some cop in california says, "it will blow your head clean off:! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

go ahead make my day!

[HK_Los]

[ QUOTE ]
.40 S&W, is getting on my bad side, starting to think the only people that like that round are cops and F.B.I.!

[/ QUOTE ] I believe the FBI is using 357 Sig, but I could be mistaken. I've fired that caliber out of a P229, but have not shot it from an H&K. The Sig did not fit my hand well, so I couldn't really compare it to anything anyway. I hear the 357 Sig has a helluva muzzle flash, is really loud, but still has less recoil than, say, an .40. Anyone that has fired both from the same weapon type(a USP) second that?

[high ground]

I've found the .40 to be more controllable for me. I had a .357 compact USP and the recoil and flash was pretty harsh. My Dad's .40 compact didn't seem nearly as bad.

[MichaelVain]

I feel SO sorry for you...you have no idea how addicting it is...

Tell you what, save yourself alot of needless anxiety...go get an SP89, Form 4 it to SBR, then get a K grip and PDW stock...instant MP5K semi.

It's the best 9mm in the HK family semiauto.

[Nowhereman]

Bradadata,

If you think it's bad now, wait till you shoot a Class III MP5! Full auto addiction, with no cure... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MichaelVain]

Nowhereman is dead on right...

I shot a board member's MP5...the desire to have one is palpable after you've fired one.

M

[SixBarSpur]

[ QUOTE ]
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif YOU ARE SO SCREWED NOW!!! ...kiss your freaking money GOOD-"BUY"

[/ QUOTE ]

I have so many HKs now because I decided I wasn't spending money, I was simply changing the form the value takes. I've still got all the assets I did before I purchased my HKs, it's just now, I can have more enjoyment with it!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[BradaData]

Hahaha you have a good point there. Ive shot a FA glock before, and that was pretty sweet. But i have always loved the look of the mp5k. Very sexy. Ive wanted one ever since speed came out. When the bad guy starts shooting it in the train at keaun reves (sp?). Hold on leme wipe the drool off my chin /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[jeray]

[ QUOTE ]
If you think it's bad now, wait till you shoot a Class III MP5! Full auto addiction, with no cure...


[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, there's a cure, it just cost about $12K /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[GuitarSlinger66]

My first pistol was a stainless steel HK USP40, full size. I loved it, cleaned it - every day. After an AR15, I got the Glock Bug. I wanted a Glock when I got my CCW. So I bought a used G26, with Trij. NS. I love the gun, don't get me wrong, it's so much fun to shoot, such small size, no recoil, it's great. But it's not an H&K. My USP is like my Cadillac, it's shiny, clean, and classy. The Glock is the workhorse, (so is the HK), but the Glock is much more practical.

I'll say this... I never appreciated the workmanship of my H&K until I fired and handled other pistols (often), like my Glock. I never fully appreciated my H&K's design. Just overall. Everything about it. But yes, they are damn expensive. My next H&K will be the Mark 23. Then a P2000 compact 9mm, then whatever they come out with next. Hopefully the AWB will sunset and we'll all be able to get some fun rifles from HK!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Subikkon]

Insert Big Bore's Statement here:

Eddybaby booby bibby - /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif 9mm??? Feel ashamed! I'm not going to say that the 9mm is underpowered, but it is on the edge. Go with the USP Tactical. IT IS GREAT!!! No kick, and relatively no muzzle rise. When you want a tango to stop. . .hitem with a small lead boulder! BTW our nation uses a .45 "COLT 1911" "COLT 1991" etc. you forgot! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

AND FOR YOU LATIN FREAKS

Nemo dot Quod non Habet.

[badfish]

"no one can give what he does not have"

[eddyallenby]

hey guess what i did today bigbore (5/27)? i went to the gun store and was ready to trade my USP 40 in for a Tactical .45! but here is why i didnt, the crappy gun store was only going to give me $400 dollars for my USP 40. i couldn't believe it, i was ready to become a .45ACP-MAN. when the gun clerk said, "the highest we can offer is $400 (my USP has a AD code on it), i felt like yelling, "quick someone call the police, there is a robbery in progress"! but i didnt, i left with my .40 snappy&wobbly caliber gun. well maybe i will just hold on to my gun, and just save up for a tac .45, or a USPf 9mm. you know i hate you guys (the .45 guys), you now have ME doubting the power of the 9mm! but i refuse to become a .45 man! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif must stick to my nines! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hkpete]

I've found that the students I teach in CCW classes shoot better with .45ACP than 9mm, especially the real beginners.

[badfish]

come to the darkside......

[Nowhereman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If you think it's bad now, wait till you shoot a Class III MP5! Full auto addiction, with no cure...


[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, there's a cure, it just cost about $12K /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

That's not a cure, that's more like handing an crack addict a syringe! Ya still got to pay for the ammo (not to mention the accessories)! Of course you can't stop there, not when there are other Class III HK's to be had!/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[jeray]

[ QUOTE ]
That's not a cure, that's more like handing an crack addict a syringe! Ya still got to pay for the ammo (not to mention the accessories)! Of course you can't stop there, not when there are other Class III HK's to be had!


[/ QUOTE ]

just stop, stop now. I can't handle the harsh reality that I wilL NEVER be able to afford a HK MG.

bastards /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Tombeis]

[ QUOTE ]
I've found that the students I teach in CCW classes shoot better with .45ACP than 9mm, especially the real beginners.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have found the same with my two grandsons.(ages 11 and 13) They shoot the Tactical and the Socom better then smaller caliber guns. Anybody figure out why?

[Subikkon]

All about the weight my friends. .45's seem to weigh more. This has a calming effect on the gun itself. That is why 9mm kicks more (generally, from my exp) and is snappier with more muzzle rise. But, the 9mm is more accurate usually than say a .45. However, HK makes their .45's too accurate, so no accuracy is lost by caliber. 9mm has its place, and the 45 has its. A 230gr JHP moving at say ~950fps will knock a guy down and put him out for the fight. A 9mm won't have quite the same effect, in fact has much less; but it is all about shot placement. I haven't had the money to buy any recreational guns, but a 9mm is the best choice for plinking and target sports. Also, the capacity aint bad! I would never use one as a duty gun, prolly not even for carry. I would love to have some sexy ones though, like the Pxxx and the M9.

EDDY!!! good choice. I woulda slapped him. Keep the forty, save for the 45. Then go shattermelons!

[christian77]

[ QUOTE ]
I was also once an ardent fan of the Glock 19

[/ QUOTE ] That's funny, I was also fomerly a member of the Glock19 guru. Then I bought my USP9f and and got hooked[ QUOTE ]
I have nothing against the 9x19, but once you get into punching .45 sized holes in things, the 9mm starts to pail a bit.

[/ QUOTE ] Then I bought my USP.45f and became a .45 caliber guru, it does pale in comparison...I love seeing those big ass holes compared to my 9mm pistols holes. My next venture is the USP.45c, besides I could go a week or two without food, definitly a worthy trade off /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Maxwell]

it is ALL HKPRO's fault. after finding this site i have added the usp 9 and a tac 45. i just wish i could get a new Match. the usp fits my hand the best, well after my les baer thunder ranch.
be well
maxwell

[Stupify]

[ QUOTE ]
Ever since I got my USPC 9mm I can not find another gun that im willing to fork out some money on. This gun ruined my gun buying expierence. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this gun. It is P-E-R-F-E-C-T. Before this I was a Glock guy. I loved my G19 and I shot it well. Now this usp spoiled me on accuracy and sight picture. The grip is perfect and I get a much more natural gip with out trying to readjust. Its the perfect size, recoil is non-exsistent, sight picture is flawless, time on target is a fraction of a second, acuracy is amazing, I can carry it cocked and locked, or DA, mag release is the best on the market, did I mention accuracy? And i love the mag release. Allot; I love it allot. This sucks, now I just want more H&K's nothing eles. There isnt a better pistol. I feel like I have betrayed gaston, but oh well he has enough money as it is. So what do I do now? Wich HK should I buy next? Im a die hard 9mm fan. Full sized usp perhaps? P2000? P2000sk when it is released? So many options its tearing me appart inside.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you think that USPc 9mm is accurate, wait until you shoot a USPf 9mm. That thing is like butta', and I mean smooth.

[Default]

As for the caliber discussion, perhaps the impressions of a relatively green shooter such as myself might be helpful, at least for the inexperienced. I now have about 1200 rounds or so through various handguns - HK USP9f, Walther P22, HK USP45c, Glock 17, Glock 19, Kimber Custom, and a Sig P226 in .40SW. My best results for accuracy? My own USP9f, my P22, and the Kimber (the first .45 I shot). Poor results for the USPc .45 and G19, which I chalk up to imperfect technique, and the combination of strong recoil and short sight radius. The kick of the Sig in .40SW didn't seem noticeably sharper than 9mm, but then again the p226 is a fairly large all-metal gun.

Actually, my own USP9f seems to have the most recoil, or at least muzzle flip, of any gun I've shot. The Kimber certainly had a big "blast", but the large metal frame and (as I understand it) lower pressures made the recoil seem less intrusive than any other 9mm, 40SW, or .45ACP pistol I've shot (admittedly only 6 guns falling into that category.) Both .45s I've shot, the HK and Kimber, had a kick I would describe as "big", but "slow" and more "front-to-back", as opposed to the "torquing" recoil of the USP9f. Now that I'm reasonably accustomed to the USP9f (800+ rounds), I have decent results, in terms of accuracy, and greatly enjoy shooting it.

As much as I daydream about getting another gun (HK USPc in any caliber, P7M8, P2000, P2000SK, USP45f, Walther P99, Springfield or Kimber 1911, Browning HP, FN Five-Seven, Sig p226 or P239, various Glocks, the list is endless), the near-perfection of the USP I bought makes it a relatively low priority. Which makes me glad I did my research and spent the extra couple hundred bucks. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Subikkon]

congrats default! I am in love with my tac. I can fast (not rapid) fire 10yds with a 3" group with the tac. I can't get that kinda accuracy outta anything else at any rate of fire.

[jeray]

I took a friend who had never fired a gun before to the range a couple of days ago. She worked her way up in caliber, starting with a Mark II Ruger .22 cal. She was good with the .22, but didn't really take to the 9mm or .38, or .40. My other friend handed her my Tac and sh walked out the shoot the metal targets. I was loading magazines and all I said was "be sure the remember to lean foward just a little", and continued to load rounds. Then I just heard "Bang, Ting" - "Bang, Ting" - "Bang, Ting". I looked up and she was shooting then at about 15 - 20 yards and hit 7-8 out of ten.

I remember thinking: "Damn"

[ITD1944]

[ QUOTE ]

AND FOR YOU LATIN FREAKS

Nemo dot Quod non Habet.

[/ QUOTE ]

"no one can give what he does not have"-Badfish

"Looks like Mr. Badfish is an educated man, darlin'. now I really hate him" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Subikkon]

LOL

[hkryan]

[ QUOTE ]
come to the darkside......

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, do come... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[DocSCHLITZER]

if feel with you.
thanx, doc schlitzer

[Goose5]

I hear you. When I decided to get back into shooting I went back and forth. Local police types were really high on Glock. Considered Sig. The plan was to get one of each. Then it happened. A USPf .45 followed me home. Next is Sig? I don't know if CDNN has any P2K's left in about 3 months the Sig is going to have to wait.

[psg1]

There is always Sig. But for once, HKs customer service reputation has surpassed that of their German/Swiss rival. Sig owners are reporting some major CQ issues lately, yet nothing but good reports have been posted about HKs latest customer service makeover. Imagine that. Alabama hospitality?

[dcondiff]

[ QUOTE ]
Bradadata,

If you think it's bad now, wait till you shoot a Class III MP5! Full auto addiction, with no cure... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]no kidding, my HK P2000SK was just the gateway gun for me, now I've got a Tactical 45, and after shooting a few full auto H&K MP5s and full auto mp5-looking gun that shot 223 a week back, i need my class 3. I'm going to trade my cars for a mp5.

[Goose5]

Southern hospitality has no equal. Both Sig and Glock are reporting some backorder difficulties. And, there is always the tactical .40 for 800 dollars at CDNN and Ordnance Outsellers to consider.

[dcondiff]

[ QUOTE ]
Southern hospitality has no equal. Both Sig and Glock are reporting some backorder difficulties. And, there is always the tactical .40 for 800 dollars at CDNN and Ordnance Outsellers to consider.

[/ QUOTE ]www.policeguns.com has a tac 40 for 800 too

[muffin]

yes i hate HK too, the worst part is not only do you have to buy the gun with out any choice, their insiduous plan is that you also have to buy all these neat gadgets to put on the gun, a thousand dollar pistol is really 2000 when you get done accessorizing it. bastards!!!!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[xplate]

[ QUOTE ]
yes i hate HK too, the worst part is not only do you have to buy the gun with out any choice, their insiduous plan is that you also have to buy all these neat gadgets to put on the gun, a thousand dollar pistol is really 2000 when you get done accessorizing it. bastards!!!!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

You must not be familiar with the 1911.

[hkmike]

P7 1ST P2000SK VERY CLOSE 2ND /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Baldy]

I would be interested, Doc, to know how/why this thread from exactly 2 years ago was revived? I searched using the original poster's name(BradaData), and apparently he has not posted since June 2004.
I do not remember the post from then, so I guess I will reply.
I sort of hate HK, only because I - well- as the 12 Steppers say: "Hello. My name is Baldy. I am an HK-aholic. It has been 4 months and 5 days since I last bought an HK. My addiction to the "H" is costing me my marriage, almost lost my job, and my credit is ruined."
Back to reality. If I can only get myself to sell that vintage guitar, I can buy that HK 93 I NEEEEEED!

[bordercop]

My name is bordercop, and I am an HK-holic. It's been only 2 weeks since I received my last HK through my local FFL handler. The worst part about this one is that it only differs from my other 45f by the fact that it has a stainless slide, while the older one has HE finish.

I'm really going to be in trouble when (if?) the newer HK45 comes out. Expecially since I'm a lefty, and It's supposed to have the right side controls /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Slingblade2006]

I too have been spoiled since I bought my first 45f. I now own a 9c and love it more than sweet tea. I hope to buy a 45ct sometime this year. Does anyone have one yet? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Haizum]

Not only do the HKs I own make me want to buy more HKs, but I'm finding that I want to buy GLOCKs just so I can feel ok about abusing them.

[Slingblade2006]

Maybe Glock can buy HK then I would not want to buy so many HK's. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Horsehide]

Yep, HK ruined it for me too...:)

[IGO1320]

My name is Henry.....I bought my first HK in April of last year, before the summer was out I had bought two more.....my wife was not impressed....now I am trying to convince her she needs a P7M8......

[MotoJB]

LOL - nice problem to have actually.

I'd say get a full sized USP 45. You won't regret it. Fun gun.

If you MUST have a 9mm. Get a P7.

[IGO1320]

I had a USP did not fit my hand confortably so sold it and bought a P2000 V-2 .40.

[CrippledPidgeon]

Wow, a thread that's been necroposted three times....

[Hrwsman]

I would rather have a 22 compared to a 9mm Both are great for paper targets . 22 is much more cost effective . If you want to stop something ( or someone ) 45 is the way to go ......or better yet get a 357 revolver and fire 38's . Too bad H&K doesnt make a revolver like a Dan Wesson .
I'd buy it ! ( I'd still keep my DW though ( Hard to beat )

[djlethalweapon]

If the 'ultimate stopping power' is what you're looking for in a pistol, then go with a S&W .500 Magnum(or Raging Bull). One shot will definitely put someone down no matter what part of the body you hit them... IF you can hit them with that thing. Haha