View Full Version : Question on p2000 vs SK with X-grips
lc_gator
04-04-2008, 11:09 PM
I held a P2000sk at a local gun range the other day b/c I am considering either the p2000 or sk in .40 for IWB carry while wearing a suit at the office. I don't have huge hands but the sk grip just felt too short. Now that I've heard about the X-grips with the bigger mags I was wondering what the difference is in size, comfort, shootability and concealabilty between the p2000 and sk with the x-grip and extended mag on. I think I would prefer the sk so that I have the option of not using the x-grip if I want to carry inconspicuously with just a t-shirt when not at work. Can anyone compare the two for me? Thanks in advance.
Vermilion
04-04-2008, 11:13 PM
What I'm going to do is get a p2000sk and then get some p2000 mags with the Xgrip for range use. Depending on how well the Xgrip stays on the p2000 mag I might consider carrying a p2000 xgrip mag as a backup instead of the other 10rd (in my case its gonna be 9mm) p2000sk mag.
jdavis6576
04-04-2008, 11:28 PM
I have both. The sk is slightly smaller but the only time I notice the difference in size is if I'm driving long distances. If I was going to choose only one, I'd get the full size P2000. In fact, I'm selling the sk to buy a P30.
MaverickH1
04-05-2008, 12:03 AM
I'm the other way around from jdavis. I originally was going to purchase a P2000, but by chance found a P2000sk at a good price. Now, I don't think I'll ever purchase a P2000 because the P2000sk is flexible enough and accurate enough to fill both the positions of a compact and subcompact gun.
I do notice a huge difference in size between the regular sk mag and then the P2000 mag. To me, the height of the gun (measured from the bottom of the mag to the top of the rear sight) is the most important dimension for concealment.
With my sk, I've carried at work with a tucked shirt and a wide range of movements. In the winter or on the bicycle on the trails I can carry with the P2000 mag and X-grip and comfortably conceal in the winter, or open carry.
It's the best of both worlds.
lc_gator
04-05-2008, 01:53 AM
Thank you guys for your responses so far. I guess the real gist of my question though is if you had to choose between IWB carrying the p2000 or the SK with x-grips and extended mags on a daily basis, which would you choose and why? Like I said in my original post, I will be carrying the gun I end up with IWB in a suit 5 days a week 8-10 hours a day; my only reason for really considering the SK is that I'd have the option of not using the x-grip/extended mag and "carrying light", if you will, with less cover clothing. The SK by itself is not comfortable enough in my hand to be my primary carry gun unless I use the X-grips. So is the versatility, shorter barrel, and slimmer slide enough to make the SK the way to go for me over the fullsize p2000? Thanks again for any help.
MaverickH1
04-05-2008, 02:00 AM
Here's the hump you need to get over: a good concealed carry gun is not going to be comfortable. You can still shoot the sk effectively with 2 fingers on the gun, but it won't be fun at the range that way.
If you want a concealed carry gun, get the sk and be dedicated enough to practice with 2 fingers around the grip and pinkie tucked under the mag. You'll find that it's not all that comfortable... but that's where you have to realize that when your life is going to be on the line you better not be thinking about the comfort of your pinkie.
If you're stuck on having a comfortable concealed carry gun... I swear it doesn't exist unless you make sacrifices to concealment.
spyder1439
04-05-2008, 05:30 AM
+1 for the sk it hides like a champ until needed and then shoots like a champ
murfdog
04-05-2008, 06:16 AM
+2 I carry a P2sk and I love it.It shoots straight and carrys well.
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lc_gator
04-05-2008, 06:34 PM
Here's the hump you need to get over: a good concealed carry gun is not going to be comfortable. You can still shoot the sk effectively with 2 fingers on the gun, but it won't be fun at the range that way.
If you want a concealed carry gun, get the sk and be dedicated enough to practice with 2 fingers around the grip and pinkie tucked under the mag. You'll find that it's not all that comfortable... but that's where you have to realize that when your life is going to be on the line you better not be thinking about the comfort of your pinkie.
If you're stuck on having a comfortable concealed carry gun... I swear it doesn't exist unless you make sacrifices to concealment.
First of all, thank you again for your thoughts. I appreciate everyone's assistance here. I understand that the SK would be more concealable than the p2000. I also understand that if I want a gun that I can conceal in any clothing at any time, I may have to sacrifice some level of comfort. That is why I am asking this question. I think that I could effectively and comfortably conceal a fullsize p2000 in a good IWB holster with a suit for the office. I would assume I could do the same with the SK w/ x-grips and extended mags. I would be pretty happy with the p2000 b/c my primary purpose for CCW in the first place is to take the gun to work, as I work late downtown (not a great area) and will be prosecuting criminals. The reason I am considering the SK is that I may find myself wanting to carry places besides work, like on evenings and weekends, and I think it would be easier to carry the SK without x-grips in those situations without a jacket, etc. Thus my question is, how does the sk w/ x-grips feel and shoot compared to the p2000? Does it make the grip bulkier than the regular p2000 grip? Does the shorter barrell have much negative effect on accuracy?
I have a p2000 with a galco IWB concealable holster and it carrys fine. this holster keeps it close to your side and works very good. :65:
MaverickH1
04-05-2008, 07:18 PM
The shorter barrel does effect accuracy negatively, as does the short sight radius for some people. However, this is not a match shooting gun, and will be more than effective in self defense if you do your part. You can still put 3 bullets through the same hole at 7 yards.
The only difference in grip is that the SK has a finger groove on it, and the X-Grip also has a finger groove on it. I have no issues with that, and I haven't heard of anybody else disliking it. But I'm sure some do.
The only thing I don't like about the x-grips is that sometimes they'll become slanted on the mag and will not allow the mag to seat in the gun on a reload.
From what I'm hearing, I'd tell you to buy a P2000sk even if I was trying to sell a P2000. The best gun is the one you can always have with you, and the P2000sk will fill that need.
lc_gator
04-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Alright Mav, you may have convinced me. I'm gonna head over to a local range/gun shop as soon as I get the chance and take another look at the SK. I do like the possibilities that the SK will present. Thanks for all your help...I'll give you an update after I check it out.
TriggerHappy
04-07-2008, 04:00 PM
I have big hands and the SK fits and shoots as good as P2000 for me. Also, the X-grip is not needed for me as it conceals just as well as a compact M&P or G27. I was going to go with one of those but found the P2000SK. I bought the 357 sig and it also came with the .40 S&W barrel and 3 mags. It was like Christmas in April.
hkmike
04-08-2008, 12:39 AM
I have the p2000sk and it is a great ccw and with the xgrip you get TWO guns in one! Its a no brainer IMHO. I sold my usp compact once I got my p2000sk,and never looked back!
rhmcl
04-08-2008, 12:45 AM
This may be a dumb question but with an X grip do you need to purchase new magazines for the P2000SK or is it some kind of extension which the regular magaines fit over?
MaverickH1
04-08-2008, 12:48 AM
You need to purchase P2000/USPc mags in order to use the X-grip. It's just a sleeve that slips over those mags to fill the gap they create when inserted.
You can't use them on a P2000sk 10 round/9 round mag.
MaverickH1
04-08-2008, 12:49 AM
Alright Mav, you may have convinced me. I'm gonna head over to a local range/gun shop as soon as I get the chance and take another look at the SK. I do like the possibilities that the SK will present. Thanks for all your help...I'll give you an update after I check it out.
You're welcome, and I hope it works out.
rivers
04-10-2008, 07:11 PM
With the SK and the longer standard P2000 and USP Compact 10-round magazines (with the X-Grip slid onto those mags), you have the grip length of the standard P2000 and USPc. With the standard 9-rd .40 P2000sk mags, the grip length is shorter by about 3/4". About one finger's worth.
The SK gives you the option of the shorter or standard grip lengths so you can quickly and easily tailor that major concealment issue to your needs. Just pick a standard 9-round SK mag or a P2000/USPc 10-rd with the X-Grip. Remember to put one in the chamber and top off the mag!
The only permanent difference between the SK and the standard P2000 / USPc is that the SK has a shorter barrel and slide. That's normally not the major problem in concealment (about 3/4" again) but within 25 yards, the SK is still a great performer.
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