USPc .40 sell-a-thon?

[shabu2]

Anybody notice there are a lot of USPc 40 selling on various boards? What gives? The ratio of people trying to unload their .40 vs 9mm and .45 is really high.

[capone]

yea i noticed the same thing... must be the ammo prices OR that people are consolidating to less calibers in their collections (the reason why i sold my 229 .40) .. well more because ammo price for me

[USP45Tim]

Yeah I noticed it too... I just sold my USP40 at a bad loss.. I think the board either expected me to give it away or no one really wants them. But I finally ditched it!

My collection will primarilly be 9mm, .45, 223, 7.62. No need to stock anymore calibers. It costs a lot to feed all of my weapons. :(

[Volodymyr]

Few see .40 as a good compromise round anymore from what I can tell. I have seen very few still dedicated to the round, most that even prefer it concede that they feel less in love with it than they used to. Anyone who wants to volunteer to get hit by the 9mm can raise their hand, the difference between .40 and 9mm is negligible, why pay more for ammo?

[Jason R]

I love my USP .40c but I have tossed around the idea of selling it. I'm starting to migrate towards 9mm / .45s. I have several firm offers...but this is the second .40c I've had..and like I said love it. :)

[Reoze]

Few see .40 as a good compromise round anymore from what I can tell. I have seen very few still dedicated to the round, most that even prefer it concede that they feel less in love with it than they used to. Anyone who wants to volunteer to get hit by the 9mm can raise their hand, the difference between .40 and 9mm is negligible, why pay more for ammo?

I wouldn't volunteer to get hit by a .38 or a .25 or a .17 but I wouldn't carry them or rely on them either. I'd RATHER get hit by a 9mm than a .40 though.

[rhmcl]

I agree with dumping the .40 SW. I'd trade my .40 P2000SK for a 9mm P2000SK.

[shabu2]

Kinda agree with everyone. That is why I am going to consolidate to 9mm and .45. I gotta sell my Sig p229 now.

[Sgt127]

I don't think the round will fade anytime soon, though. Alot of agencies are still using it, so, production is up and should keep the price somewhat lower than it could be. I think the .45 is going to keep going up, its no longer a primary round for either the Police or the military. Same with the .357 SIG, great round, but, not that many agencies carry it. Less production, higher price. A 9mm uses less brass, copper and lead than the .45 or the .40 per round. I can make an argument to stay with the 9mm and be happy.

[lordt313]

anyone know where one of these usp 40c can be bought for a good price?

[Vin496]

anyone know where one of these usp 40c can be bought for a good price?

No doubt, I wouldn't mined a discarded .40.

[EchoAngel17]

Well form one who just benefitted from someone's need to sell one I welcomed the addition to the family.

I just picked up a like new USP .40.

Now I feel better having the 9, 40 and 45 all USP full size. Next will be tacticals...have the 45...need more!!!

If anyone wants to pawn off some mags please feel free to let me know...You never have enough mags but since they do nothing for resale (unless you sell off a package) you usually end up posting them on boards anyway. Just a old scrounger at heart!!

[H&K 4 LIFE]

To each his own. Meanwhile there are people buying FN USG's that cost an arm and a leg to take to the range.

[spyder1439]

im considering getting a 9mm but only cuz ammo prices keep going up otherwise i have had no problems with the 40 or 357 sig round. i like them both and like the fact that a swap of the barrel and its almost like having 2 guns.

[Volodymyr]

im considering getting a 9mm but only cuz ammo prices keep going up otherwise i have had no problems with the 40 or 357 sig round. i like them both and like the fact that a swap of the barrel and its almost like having 2 guns.

That's the boat I'm in, I originally was looking for .40's only- I shoot my dad's G22 (.40) fine so figured I might as well go USP in .40... but the ammo prices convinced me otherwise!

[HKUSP84]

I love my 40 cal USPc and as far as the price difference in ammo vs the 9mm...5 dollars is not enough to break my wallet. IMO.. it is worth the extra 5 bucks.

[USMCMP5A3]

I wish I could pick up a .40 full size at a reasonable cost. Due to the laws in this state a USED USP .40 that is state compliant goes from $800-$1200.
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They have to have been produced and registered in state prior to October 1998.

[Uebermind]

When the zombies come, 9mm will be the caliber in greatest supply wherever you are in the world. :D Plus, zombies don't care about the extra stopping power of .40S&W, just gotta get em in the head.

[Bolted]

I love my USP 40. It was my first HK, and my first gun for that matter. The 40 Caliber round could completely disappear and I'd still keep my USP.

[MaverickH1]

Sooner or later I'll have some USP 40 conversion kits done. So I'm betting money that the trend is just a coincidence.

ETA: Although I don't have any numbers to support my theory, I think there are more USP compacts in 40 than there are in 9mm.

[madmardigan]

Just sold my USPc 40 last week. Only reason I sold was because there was too much muzzle flip IMO...... and to justify my last P7 purchase, lol. A good 9mm JHP will do everything a similar .40 JHP can. Nice gun but I'll stick with my G19. However the HK 45 is really starting to interest me, I'd really like to shoot one.

[Volodymyr]

Nice gun but I'll stick with my G19. However the HK 45 is really starting to interest me, I'd really like to shoot one.

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[madmardigan]

:380::380::380:

What's so funny?

[Volodymyr]

What's so funny?

Your going to stick with your G19 :90:

lol ;)

EDIT: I know Glocks can be respectable guns, I'm just not a fan of them at all, much rather have an XD personally.

[madmardigan]

Glocks are so much more than "respectable". How have you come to this conclusion? You have no idea what you are talking about. So please put the kool aid down and shut up.

[MaverickH1]

Please don't turn this into a Glock argument, guys...

[nwusp45]

I've noticed this too over the last few years. Myself, I went from a USP 40 to a USP 45 or a 9mm BHP. People shoot for different reasons but I would reckon most shooters agree, the 45 and 9 are much more pleasant. I would argue the reason some shooters picked 40 vs. 45 was because the platform was too big at the time. Glock 21's are huge for example. Well now with the G21SF, XD 45, HK45, etc. there are 45 options out there that are both reliable and fit the hand fairly well. I would also argue that the revival of the BHP, availability of PSP's, and the ever growing popularity of the CZ 75 leads many to the 9mm.

[spyder1439]

i agree i was considering a 45 cal for off duty carry cuz lets face it 45's make the biggest hole, but the guns were all full size weapons that were too hard to conceal or the smaller ones didnt hold enough bullets. my duty weapon is a sig p226 which is a beast to try and hide unless i have a jacket on. i prefer subcompact guns or compact guns for off duty carry. i was gonna buy the sig 239 but the mag capacity is 7 +1for 357sig and i didnt want an off duty carry that held less than 10 total otherwise id just carry my sw 442. Even now with the hk45c which holds only 8 +1 i still am not completely satisfied. (not to start a capacity war but its just how i feel)

[NonConformist]

.40 is one of my go to calibers, i also have .45 and am contemplating adding a 9mm though I wont be losing my .40

[Volodymyr]

Glocks are so much more than "respectable". How have you come to this conclusion? You have no idea what you are talking about. So please put the kool aid down and shut up.

Please don't turn this into a Glock argument, guys...

I PM'd him but for others who feel the same way or just those wanting to see the exciting conclusion...

I just explained, like my message said I know Glocks are respectable but I am not a fan of them- sorry I didn't clarify that comes from shooting one for 7 some odd years, but it's not like "I'm on the kool-aid".

[kevins_garage]

I see a lot of PD trade-ins and those tend to be skewed a bit more towards the .40 than anything else.

It's hard to sell a personally owned USPc when there are PD trade-ins in very, very good condition going for under $500, sometimes with 3 mags and night sights.

[shabu2]

I see a lot of PD trade-ins and those tend to be skewed a bit more towards the .40 than anything else.

It's hard to sell a personally owned USPc when there are PD trade-ins in very, very good condition going for under $500, sometimes with 3 mags and night sights.

Who stocks any of these? I would like to pick up one rough around.

[kevins_garage]

Who stocks any of these? I would like to pick up one rough around.

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/1999809.html

[murfdog]

When the zombies come, 9mm will be the caliber in greatest supply wherever you are in the world. :D Plus, zombies don't care about the extra stopping power of .40S&W, just gotta get em in the head.
LOL THAT'S FUNNY

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[murfdog]

I love my USP 40. It was my first HK, and my first gun for that matter. The 40 Caliber round could completely disappear and I'd still keep my USP.

+1 My first H&K was my USPC .40 in SS I'll never sell it!

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[Brvirg]

First Hk was a USP40, first Glock was a G23, first Sig was a P229 in .40.. still have them all and would never part with them. Have lots of 9mm and 45 ACP, but the .40 is still a favorite. just my .02..

[ayrton]

I agree with Volodymyr, Glock is schlock and I carried a G19 because it made sense once. I'm not trying to start an argument, it's a self-evident truth. Besides this is an HK forum, so go drink the Glock kool-aid in soulless Glockland please. I also agree with Spyder, I like the .45 but I need lots of rounds cause we shoot lots of rounds down here near the border (AZ/MEX). As for the caliber issue, I enjoy shooting my P7M10; it's a tack-driver; hands down the most accurate .40 I've ever shot, and there's many more inaccurate .40s than any other caliber I've shot. Maybe that's a reason they're falling off in popularity when the shooter has a choice (as in not mandated by department policy). As a comrade of mine once put it, "I go to war with the 9mm and I use the .45 for self-defense". Notice the .40 didn't enter the discussion.

[madmardigan]

I agree with Volodymyr, Glock is schlock and I carried a G19 because it made sense once. I'm not trying to start an argument, it's a self-evident truth. Besides this is an HK forum, so go drink the Glock kool-aid in soulless Glockland please. I also agree with Spyder, I like the .45 but I need lots of rounds cause we shoot lots of rounds down here near the border (AZ/MEX). As for the caliber issue, I enjoy shooting my P7M10; it's a tack-driver; hands down the most accurate .40 I've ever shot, and there's many more inaccurate .40s than any other caliber I've shot. Maybe that's a reason they're falling off in popularity when the shooter has a choice (as in not mandated by department policy). As a comrade of mine once put it, "I go to war with the 9mm and I use the .45 for self-defense". Notice the .40 didn't enter the discussion.

I'm not drinking any kool-aid here. There is nothing cool about owning a Glock, they are just about the most common pistol around. I have shot just about every polymer gun there is and I just prefer the Glock. The only reason I'm on here is because I love the P7 design. Its one of the best handguns ever made IMO. Sure, Hk's polymers are well made, reliable guns I can't argue and if thats what you like then good for you. Personally, I don't like overpriced, high bore axis, crappy trigger, expensive mags/parts polymer framed pistols. ( BTW I have no experience with the P30 or the HK45 so I only speak towards the previous versions, but I really doubt there that much better)

[misfit toy]

I'm not drinking any kool-aid here. There is nothing cool about owning a Glock, they are just about the most common pistol around. I have shot just about every polymer gun there is and I just prefer the Glock. The only reason I'm on here is because I love the P7 design. Its one of the best handguns ever made IMO. Sure, Hk's polymers are well made, reliable guns I can't argue and if thats what you like then good for you. Personally, I don't like overpriced, high bore axis, crappy trigger, expensive mags/parts polymer framed pistols. ( BTW I have no experience with the P30 or the HK45 so I only speak towards the previous versions, but I really doubt there that much better)

:90: WHERE DOSE BILL GATES LIVE ? Oh and that crappy little thing on the trigger always catches me finger .:6200::170000:

[Cadillac Johnson]

I think the main reason is that the .40 was probly being produced in larger numbers relative to the other calibers.

Kind of why there's so many used Glocks on the market, there's just more of them out there to show up.

Part of it is ammo prices. A lot of people are consolidating calibers, and the .40 being a middle ground, is the odd man out. I recently sold my last .40, a nickel P226, for another 9mm.

The .40 does make a lot of sense in a SD role. The best compromise of size, weight, and capacity IMO. Since civilians are able to compromise even further than LE, they can afford to go with the 9mm or .45.

Just my thoughts.

Someone mentioned the .40 being 'less accurate' than the other calibers. High capacity, double stack .40's are the most popular competition caliber. If there was an inherant inaccuracy with the caliber that wouldn't be the case. In my experience the .40 is just as accurate as anything. The caliber itself has nothing to do with accuracy in handgun ammo.

[Cadillac Johnson]

Why cant HK and Glock guys get along?

They're both great weapons. They both have strong points and they both have weak points. Different people have different needs/preferences and can get either one based on those needs/preferences.

Cant we just leave it at that?

[expertek]

I have used the .40 for a long time, but when I get the next hand gun, it will be 9mm. The extra 2 rounds in a USP more than make up for the small difference in stopping power. Consider the foot-lbs of energy in 13x.40 or 15x9mm +P+.

[spyder1439]

i have a glock 23 40 cal and an hk p2000sk v3 357sig and i love both guns. they both shoot great and feel great in my hand. i take the glock more in the winter cuz its bigger and when i dont feel like carrying a second mag. the hk i carry to and from work and in the warmer months cuz it hides better. but i like having both and not just limiting myself to only 1 type of gun...thats silly the more guns the better.

[shabu2]

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/1999809.html

Anyone know where you could get a USP or USPc in 9mm as a trade-in from PDs or in good firing condition? I just don't want to drop $550-600+ for a range gun.

[Landric]

I think that a lot of the .40s appeal was due to the ban. When one could have 10+1 of either .40 or 9mm in the same size gun, the .40 made a lot of sense. It still makes sense, but the advantage is not as extreme. For personal defense, a good 9mm is likely going to be just as good as a .40, plus cheaper and more pleasant to shoot.

I have a P2000 9mm and a .40 USPc, I like to shoot the P2000 a lot more, but the bigger, heavier bullets in the .40 also appeal to me. Overall, its a toss up. If I had it to do over again, I'd get a USP45c instead of the 40c, but at the same time I like the 40c enough that I won't be trading it on a 45c.

[TriggerHappy]

As a comrade of mine once put it, "I go to war with the 9mm and I use the .45 for self-defense". Notice the .40 didn't enter the discussion.

LOL. Thats cause the .40 can do both.......

[terrible1one3]

LOL. Thats cause the .40 can do both.......

Not exactly, if you are going to war, you are probably not going to be on US soil, if you run out of .40 and need easy availability to more ammo not supplied by the US military, such as an enemy ammo stock, you aren't going to be finding any .40 calibers, so you will be SOL.

I sold my .40 for two reasons, recoil/comfort of shooting, and price. Like people said a good 9mm round will do pretty much everything a .40 will, more comfortably and with higher capacity.

I won't buy another .40, I have migrated from .40 to 9mm AND .45. I love both calibers as they both have their advantages. The HK45 is just wicked accurate and it is a punishing round. The P30 is easily concealable, high capacity, small size, inexpensive to shoot. To me the .40 is just not a good compromise.

[Reoze]

Not exactly, if you are going to war, you are probably not going to be on US soil, if you run out of .40 and need easy availability to more ammo not supplied by the US military, such as an enemy ammo stock, you aren't going to be finding any .40 calibers, so you will be SOL.

I sold my .40 for two reasons, recoil/comfort of shooting, and price. Like people said a good 9mm round will do pretty much everything a .40 will, more comfortably and with higher capacity.

I won't buy another .40, I have migrated from .40 to 9mm AND .45. I love both calibers as they both have their advantages. The HK45 is just wicked accurate and it is a punishing round. The P30 is easily concealable, high capacity, small size, inexpensive to shoot. To me the .40 is just not a good compromise.

If i'm going to war i'll take a .223 or a 7.62x39. NOT a 9mm, .40, or .45.

[H&K 4 LIFE]

Why cant HK and Glock guys get along?

They're both great weapons. They both have strong points and they both have weak points. Different people have different needs/preferences and can get either one based on those needs/preferences.

Cant we just leave it at that?

Couldn't agree more! I am half HK guy and half Glock guy myself, with a little SIG thrown in for good measure. ;) As long as the pistol works and shoots well for me I could care less what name is engraved onto the slide.

Same goes for the .40, it's entirely personal preference. Just because a few people prefer 9mm or .45 for whatever reason over the .40 doesn't make the .40 an inaccurate round, and to say so is wholly ignorant.

I shoot the .40 S&W just fine, and I'll be keeping my all too "snappy" .40's. :p

[shakazulu12]

I actually love the snappiness of the 0.40 for some reason. I don't know why I find it more fun, but I do. That said, I don't have any real caliber preference. I bought a PSP and didn't even think about the effects of carrying 9mm as opposed to 0.40 because the gun fit my needs and I was very accurate with it at the range. I have a Kimber Ultra Carry again because I wanted something really small to carry, and like the 1911 feel. It just happens to be a 45. I got a USP Tactical 40 because I wanted a full size, wanted to carry tons of rounds with as much power as I could get in that process (jet funnels), and the 0.40 had the Match trigger and the 9mm version didn't.

Its all a preference and there is no right or wrong answer. For the vast majority of us, in the unfortunate event we had to use our weapons to stop anything, it really comes down to whatever you shoot best with as opposed to the actually caliber IMHO.

[terrible1one3]

If i'm going to war i'll take a .223 or a 7.62x39. NOT a 9mm, .40, or .45.

Thank you captain obvious. Like going to a shoe store and trying one shoe on then telling the clerk that you would like one for the other foot.

[Volodymyr]

Thank you captain obvious. Like going to a shoe store and trying one shoe on then telling the clerk that you would like one for the other foot.

LMFAO

[shabu2]

Thank you captain obvious. Like going to a shoe store and trying one shoe on then telling the clerk that you would like one for the other foot.

Play nice boys.:2500000: