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Furyataurus
11-07-2008, 03:35 AM
Taken from GT, guy sounds like an idiot.

This is just a follow up to an earlier thread of mine concerning H&K's new ,45 auto(only)called just the H&K .45! If you're considering buying one of these I'd strongly caution you away from it! I purchased one just over 3-months back and it remains the singularly biggest POS firearm I've ever purchased from anyone at anytime and that includes the Bangor Punta S&W debacle! I will not re-review it for everyone, just point out several obvious shortfalls.
1. Trigger guard has a small hump/bump that by itself would be just fine, however the standard trigger obviously was to big for the trigger guard so they had to scallop the trigger guard from that bump/hump rearward to the ambi-mag release. it's sharp and deep enough to catch your finger after the trigger resets AFTER EVERY shot. Let me be clear on this, it's very painful and distracting to fire this weapon as a result of this little mistake, rapid fire drills are all but impossible and H&K is well aware of it! Yet they will not fix the issue, I was told that they recomend
the use of a shooting glove! The H&K tech I talked with even advised that it was ok for ME to take a moto tool to it and try and smooth it down though they themselves refused to do this for me as they were addressing issue number two.
2. The new model comes with a set of interchangable backstraps, small and medium! The one marked small that came with my pistol did not fit well, as say a S&W M&P which slides in with the precision of perfection, on my M&P you can't even see the grooves or line seperating the two pieces! They sent me several replacements and ditto for those as well! I ended up having to send the firearm into them over this issue, upon recieving it and examining the issue the tech told me that ALL OF THE INSERTS MARKED SMALL did the same thing and they'd notify the parent office in Germany! I was left with ABSOLUTELY NO assurance that they'd take care of me on that issue! In fact the impression I was left with was that they could care less about it! Let me be very clear on this, my H&K .45 auto(MSRP, $1200.00)displayed a fit and finish that was nowhere near the level of quality and workmanship displayed on a pistol that was priced at well under half of it's pricetag! Doesn't bother you? Wait and see how distracting it is to have your grip frame slide about in your hand during fire! To hear it clicking in and out of it's grooves! Additionally the pistol is not shipped with a tool(a punch)thats required to effect the swapping out of the rear grip components! You'll hear from die-hard H&K fans that this is no big deal, I'm not one of them. At this pricepoint I expect the little extras!
3. The magazine feed-lips are not quite razor sharp, but their damn close and will cut your fingers(deeply)if you're not attentive to the task!
I just wanted to be sure that this follow up was posted, there are also other serious issues that I've not elaborated on at this time! You need to place your hands on one of these pistols at the GUN RANGE before you drop your cash on one! I'll not respond to any of your query's, I'm not going to argue with the internet commandos who will tell you that H&K pisses tiffany cufflinks. If you've been tossing around the possibility of dropping a grand on one of these you'd best heed my warning because you're in for some serious dissapointment if you don't!
Good luck lads.....

Mark71
11-07-2008, 03:49 AM
The HK45 is not perfect and does not work for everyone. I personally know a few people (including some die-hard HK fans) who have the same complaints about the gun as that guy.

steelshooter
11-07-2008, 04:04 AM
Glock Talk has the lowest signal to noise ratio of any gun forum on the internet and this is a prime example why. The guy writes like a 3rd grader. But who cares really. The magazine lips were too sharp? Hoo boy...

reaper8154
11-07-2008, 04:33 AM
I called him a tool, couldn't help myself...

AWD
11-07-2008, 06:34 AM
I'm starting to not even give a crap about what people say online... because no matter what it is, you will have scores of people say it sucks, and more saying it's the best thing on Earth. Take it for a grain of salt and if it works for you, who cares what some tool whines about? If we base our purchases solely on the negative of the internet, we probably wouldn't buy anything!

AWD

04TAC40
11-07-2008, 07:17 AM
Exactly... I second that AWD... Simply sounds to me tho like this guy obviously just has too big of hands and fingers for the HK45...
Guy kinda sounds like a softy too... pinches? cuts? from your piece? Guy have baby skin or somethin?
Sounds like you aint doin something right there buddy and your fingers just way to fat for that ones tight spaces :380:

MadMax2012
11-07-2008, 05:26 PM
And here I was all this time thinking I had purchased the most accurate, most reliable, safest, easiest to get rounds on target, least maintenance intensive, most comfortable and confidence inspiring pistol I had ever known.

Now what am I going to do after learning that this guy has all sorts of problems where I do not??????

:rolleyes:

steelshooter
11-07-2008, 09:33 PM
I know, its all becoming clear to me too.....
I don't believe this guy ever owned an HK 45 btw. I think he rented one at range or borrowed one. His story just doesn't pass the smell test.
Even though the trigger channel doesn't bother me it does bother enough people that i think HK should reconsider it. I have no idea what his complaint is about the small size grip as I have not heard of that issue before. Fit and finish and too sharp a magazine are obviously just silly.
We all know these pistols are nowhere near $1250.00

As to the M&P's I like them a lot but they are not at the same level as HK. Mine have shown a lot of finish wear without a huge amount of rounds through them whereas my HK 45's have quite a few more rounds and still look new. Also the M&P's had a whole lot of problems the first year or two they were out and I have seen nothing like that for the new HK's.

cmdrdredd
11-08-2008, 04:45 AM
It's just a way for someone to say "see we own Glocks, cause they're better than a gun 2x as much". :rolleyes:

NonConformist
11-08-2008, 06:08 PM
Ill be keeping my HK45

The grooves dont bother me and dont pinch, though I do feel them, why they are there is beyond me and it was a stupid idea but its not a concern

I had no issue w/ the backstraps, ended putting the medium in anyway and just used some house tools to swap 'em out

The fit and finish is typical HK quality IMO, he may have gotten a fluke but mine is pretty tight


I have 0 complaints

kraigster414
11-08-2008, 06:12 PM
More gun forum bs. Put a bandaid on your finger for gad sakes. Some will say too that water is too wet.

I had two of the early M&Ps - both went back to the factory witin weeks of receiving. Lost confidence in them, guns gone, replaced with HK's. Never looked back.

Talk about complaining about minor stuff. Wake me up when this is over.

BytorJr
11-08-2008, 06:55 PM
You want cuts on your hand...try a concealed carry class with an AIRLITE (not airweight) J-frame and put over 400 rounds in it within 3 hours!!!! Or try loading ANY magazine with 600 rounds or so in a day..you are going to have sore fingers...period!!!!!!!! (enter uplula)

Now, I haven't shot an HK45/45c or a P30 (though it's on my to-do list) but this seems like he's WAY overboard on this. Does the P30 have the same issue?

kraigster414
11-08-2008, 07:09 PM
No doubt his fingers hurt from typing his opening thesis and that an email went off to the keyboard manufacturer citing rough edges on the letters "a" and "c" and that it was not a problem with his Commodore 64.

You want a rough hand, shoot a Keltec P3AT with Buffalo Bore +P ammo.

sjopling
11-08-2008, 10:16 PM
Never had any of these problems with mine, the first time I shot one the trigger bothered me a bit but I didnt notice it the more I shot it. I dont know where he is getting the sharp edges from.

H&K 4 LIFE
11-08-2008, 10:19 PM
Whatever. Just means more HK's for the rest of us. :)

BytorJr
11-08-2008, 11:16 PM
kraigster414, I think you are incorrect in that he has got to have problems with the index finger, not due to A&C, but due to the "location" marks on the keys rubbing his fingers raw :) :).

kraigster414
11-08-2008, 11:31 PM
kraigster414, I think you are incorrect in that he has got to have problems with the index finger, not due to A&C, but due to the "location" marks on the keys rubbing his fingers raw :) :).

I stand corrected Bytor. LOL.

I think sometimes folks forget what guns were designed for. They are not flower arrangements.

LCSO264
11-09-2008, 03:41 AM
As for the retard's rant, we'll all take it for what's it's worth.. Just one of the reasons I steer clear of GT....

Now, I have heard people with a similar complaint regarding the trigger guard. Personally, I've not had this problem, so I can't comment.. I just don't get it, so I'll not make uniformed comments..

Both of the back straps that came with my HK45 & HK45c both fit perfectly. However, I do recall reading a post here about a week or two ago, in which someone posted one of his back straps was poorly machined/finish, so I won't completely discount his statement regarding the back strap. I'll just say all four of mine properly fit their respective handgun.

The magazine feed lips? I'm not going to even respond/reply to this one, I think we all know this complaint was just silly.

that's it from me, I'll keep my HK45's and he can keep his Glockenspiel....

mmcc100
11-09-2008, 05:38 AM
I don't have any issues with the backstrap on my P30, but the left side strap sticks out a bit. It doesn't bother me while shooting or hurt any, but the anal-retentive side of me wants it more flush. I don't see it as being anything wrong with the gun though.

Limey
11-09-2008, 11:41 AM
He's a dillweed...................posted a nice reply at GT.

AWD
11-09-2008, 02:10 PM
I think sometimes folks forget what guns were designed for. They are not flower arrangements.

I like that, very well said!

benderx4
11-09-2008, 02:45 PM
Wasn't there another guy at GlockWorld that made a huge post about how he dropped his HK from about a foot onto the ground, and said the frame cracked in half? And they say that we are the haters?

Renee
11-27-2008, 02:16 AM
I doubt this person ever owned a HK. I have three and they have never once fail to feed,fire, jam etc. My new HKf has a very nice lite trigger and is my favorite. When I squeeze the trigger all I feel is the trigger. I don't drag my finger on the trigger guard, it will hurt the accuracy.
I also own a Glock 19 and had some trigger work done to get a lighter trigger. Not necessary with my HK's.
I use a Mag loader, never D??? enough to cut my fingers.

Renee

dragongoddess
11-27-2008, 03:27 AM
First let me say I own a HK45 and it's the first HK I've ever owned. And yes I would purchase another based on my experience with the HK45. Now to the trigger issue I noticed that the first time I used the HK45 yet I somehow managed to re-adjust how I pulled the trigger. In other words if you keep your trigger finger on the trigger you won't have problems. As for sharp lips on the mags I'll try to remember about that the next time I'm in a hand to hand combat situation.