Trigger similar to a 1911?

[DanielW]

I got a chance to shoot a few .45 at the range a few days ago, mainly a SIG P220, USP, HK45c, and a Kimber Classic LE. I was the most accurate with the Kimber by a long shot. I think it has something to do with the trigger being so crisp and light. I'm still set on getting a HK45 (fullsize) I just want to know if the LEM trigger is an improvement over the standard trigger. I know I can probably get used to shooting the HK45 but the Kimber just felt so natural to me. Can anyone comment on the LEM trigger and compare to any other pistol so I can try it out?

[SIGtrarian]

I got a chance to shoot a few .45 at the range a few days ago, mainly a SIG P220, USP, HK45c, and a Kimber Classic LE. I was the most accurate with the Kimber by a long shot. I think it has something to do with the trigger being so crisp and light. I'm still set on getting a HK45 (fullsize) I just want to know if the LEM trigger is an improvement over the standard trigger. I know I can probably get used to shooting the HK45 but the Kimber just felt so natural to me. Can anyone comment on the LEM trigger and compare to any other pistol so I can try it out?A LEM is an improvement over a double action only trigger, not a single action trigger. Have you considered a standard trigger w/ safety on your HK45 so you'll have the option of a trigger a little closer to the Kimber?

[Big Bore]

Unless you send your pistol to Bruce Gray and have it converted to SA only you will never, every, absolutely impossible to get a 1911 type trigger on any HK DA/SA or LEM pistol. Comparing the DA/SA trigger or even the LEM DAO trigger to a pure SA 1911 trigger is completely apples and oranges. I know that Gray can make the trigger into SAO and make it a LOT better, but even then I seriously doubt it can equal a tuned 1911 trigger.
If you have a purely target pistol you can get the LEM trigger made into a wonderful trigger, breaking at about 3 pounds and only a .065 inch reset (Louden Guns, Tommy Thacker) , but even that will not equal a tuned 1911.
So, if you must have a 1911 trigger, forget about HKs and get a 1911, just make sure you get one that is tuned and be prepared to pay for it. If you want likely the most reliable, accurate, and combat ready pistol right out of the box then look to HK for your answer. First and foremost HKs are serious pistols meant for serious use. They are not going to jam up when a little dirty like my tricked out 1911 will, and they will feed anything, any time, any place, and will do it with more accuracy than the shooter possesses right out of the box without any tuning and they will shrug off dirt that will stop those tuned 1911s in their tracks.

[Talon66]

I think it has something to do with the trigger being so crisp and light.

Like Big Bore says, you're trying to compare apples to oranges. When you strip the trigger assemblies, you'll find that the 1911 trigger is a "sliding" type of trigger. It moves straight back. Taking a look at most SA/DA trigger assemblies, you'll notice that the trigger "pivots" in relation to a point above your finger. In very simple terms, it's this relationship that creates the difference in the trigger pulls. Even the single action Sig P226 X-5 has nothing on a finely tuned 1911.

[DanielW]

Thanks for all the info. I guess I'll just keep practicing with the HK45 :28:

[Omega Man]

You shot the Kimber the best because its a 1911 and the design is usually more accurate than other defense pistols. The trigger is not the only reason the Kimber shot best. My TRP 1911 is clearly the most accurate pistol ive ever fired.

[bspring]

A worked V1 can be made to have a very nice 1911 like pull, but it will have the usual take up as it is SA/DA the can be safely set to 3.5 to 4lbs. The Light LEM can be had in the 4.5lbs area, but it suffers from a very long trigger pull, some people like it.

Bill