USPc 40 or P2000SK 40

[HD1200]

Yes I know there are other threads out there, but none of them answered my question. I am going to buy a new gun and I want it for carry since my USPT is a little big. I want either the USPc 40 LEM or the P2000SK 40 LEM. I understand the grip on the SK is a lot smaller and that's what worries me about the control issue. I am what I would consider a decent shot with my USPT with as little as I have shot it. I shot my dad's glock 27 the other night, and I wasn't a big fan, so thats what makes me wonder about the SK if I would actually like it. The biggest drawback I see to the USPc is the how big it is, but other than that I'm not sure. Or would just the regular 2000 be a better options. I'm incredibely undecided. Any input would be greatly appreciated as I want to get some practice in before a couple of classes that I am going to take with whatever I get.

[CPshooter]

I was going through the same thing a week ago. I liked the smaller size of the P2000sk but was worried about the same control issues. I used to own a glock 27 actually and sold it to a friend because of the recoil being too much for a sub-compact gun. So I was debating between a P2000 .40 LEM or the P2000sk in 9mm. Since I already have a USP .40 Compact I felt that the P2000sk would be a more worthwhile purchase.

I feel that 9mm for the P2000sk is more practical than .40s&w. Practice ammo is much cheaper and practicing with your carry gun is very important. Recoil is also less which helps for quicker follow-up shots and you get 1 more round in a magazine. However I've been told by people who have a P2000sk .40 that recoil is very manageable even though it is a small gun. I wasn't willing to take the chance so I went with 9mm. Terminal ballistic performance between the two rounds are so close these days that I don't even
think .40s&w offers a real advantage. Modern hollow point design allows the 9mm to
be just as effective as .40s&w and even .45acp.

[ddgarcia05]

I just bought a SK this weekend and was able to go out to the range and try it out. Needless to say it shot great. I was also fired a Glock 27 which had a lot more recoil then the SK. If you're worried about the grips I should let you know that you can always get P2000 mags and attach X Grips that will fill in the gap between the SK smaller grip and the bigger P2k mag floorpate, thus giving you a grip of the P2000 on an SK.

This topic better explains xgrips...
http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98343&highlight=p2000sk

Sorry I cant compare it to the USPc because I've never fired one.

[H&K 4 LIFE]

Owning both, I think it comes down to the size of your hand. If you have big hands the P2000sk simply may not be big enough. Obviously the P2000sk conceals much more easily then the larger USPc though.

I have shot a G27 and found the recoil close to abusive after a couple of mags. The P2000sk handles the recoil much better and I can shoot it all day with no discomfort. It is also quite an accurate little sub-compact.

If you have any more questions about these two I would be happy to help. :)

[mjlombardo]

I carry a P2000 for duty and off duty. To me it would depend on your hand size as mentioned before, and your body size. I'm not a big guy (5'6" 170 LBS) and can conceal the P2K without much trouble. You could go the route of magazine extenders for the grip but that pretty much ruins the point of having an SK in my eyes since it would extend the grip to the size of a P2K. I don't have an SK, but I don't know if I'd feel comfortable handling the small grip in anything more then 9mm. The full size P2K is the same size as a USPc.

[benderx4]

I don't know if I'd feel comfortable handling the small grip in anything more then 9mm.

Exactly what I was going to say. IMHO, the SK "platform" is perfect for the 9mm. With as small as that grip is, even with the "pinky" mag, I think control and second shot capability become large issues with the 40SW caliber. Good luck!

[IGO1320]

I have a P2KSK .40 LEM (4.5 lb version) and have no problems with accurate follow up shots. I am also 5'6". I really do not see much difference in the recoil between that and my P2K. My wife likes to shoot the SK also but she does have problems with quick follow up shots. You might want to try it before you dismiss it. Have a good day.

[H&K 4 LIFE]

I have a P2KSK .40 LEM (4.5 lb version) and have no problems with accurate follow up shots. I am also 5'6". I really do not see much difference in the recoil between that and my P2K. My wife likes to shoot the SK also but she does have problems with quick follow up shots. You might want to try it before you dismiss it. Have a good day.

+1. I am about the same size as you and have placed a 3 shot group into a 2" Shoot-N-C target at about 15yrds. using Hornady TAP CQ 180gr. :)

[HD1200]

Thanks, everybody has been extremely helpful.

[Perseus]

I feel like I'm becoming the unofficial sponsor of the P2000SK because I keep telling everyone how much I love this gun! I think it's more comfortable/ ergonomic than the USP series. I own a 9mm and can shoot it all day. With the x-grips it's like having an sk and a regular p2000. Mine came with the finger extensions on the mags and it's just enough to get my pinky on there. I wouldn't want it any smaller or larger for CCW.

[heffa]

Carry the biggest gun you can! The USPc in 40 holds 3 more rounds than the P2Ksk and hell why not have three more shots in a ccw. It all comes down to what you can conceal, how big are you, how do you dress? The sk hides GREAT but if your not a big guy you may have problems hiding the USPc. If I wear a button up shirt or a coat the USPc is fine but in a Tshirt the sk hides way better and I don't have to think about it. I'm a skinny guy 160lbs 6' I can pull off the USPc in a Tshirt but I'm constantly pulling my shirt down and wondering who may have seen my printing which we all know only gun guys see. The recoil in the sk is not much more than the USPc and IMO allot less than the G27. I cant vote on this not knowing your size but they are both great choices for carry pieces!

[H&K 4 LIFE]

Well I carry a USPc/P2000 12rnd. mag. as a spare. I figure if I am going for a spare mag. I really would appreciate an extra 3 rounds. Otherwise the shorter grip length of the SK with the stock mag. is much easier to conceal.

[Scotty G]

I want either the USPc 40 LEM or the P2000SK 40 LEM. I understand the grip on the SK is a lot smaller and that's what worries me about the control issue.

Or would just the regular 2000 be a better options. I'm incredibely undecided. Any input would be greatly appreciated as I want to get some practice in before a couple of classes that I am going to take with whatever I get.

HD,

I own both the P2000 and P2000SK. You're right, the SK's grip is *shorter,* not smaller. I have normal sized hands, and my pinky falls to the bottom of the magazine. I have found zero issues with that. The SK is my carry gun, and I like the fact that it's in .40.

Recoil on that weapon is very manageable with the plastic buffer on the spring. I quite like this gun - a lot.

I've also carried the P2000. No real issues, other than it's "tall" with an IWB kydex holster. If you're going to be carrying a lot, go with the SK - I don't think you'll be sorry. I carry on a Galco paddle OWB sometimes, and the cant of the holster means it's very comfy with either the SK or fullsize.

Best of luck to you.

[H&K 4 LIFE]

...Recoil on that weapon is very manageable with the plastic buffer on the spring...

Look again Scotty, the P2000sk has a dual spring recoil assembly design ala the USPf. The P2000 has the plastic buffer like the USPc. ;)

Still what you say about the recoil is very true. Amazing control for a pistol this size.

[HD1200]

Thanks guys. Just got off the phone with Clyde Armory, and my new SK is on its way. After hearing all you guys praising this little gun I can't wait to get mine to shoot.