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Old 11-04-2009, 01:24 AM   #41
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GM your character has no fault, and your reputation from what I can tell is flawless. I just got caught up in the read and had never researched your history. I'm sorry if to offended you. I probably should have never said anything about the MKE guns, but judging from the photos and my knowledge of the laws, it looked like a no way deal.

I'm just trying to help out in this thread nothing more.

On another note, I have contacted James from Allied he looked up your name and your wifes and he says they only have a record of a Jeff Walters who purchased a crankfire for a 1919a4, but no drum order. He said most likely the secretary's took your information but never processed it and that it would be in the system if processed. He said he can call you but doesn't have your phone number.


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"I don't understand the last day to order is now, we just found out he was getting these and now he's just closing up the sales? Makes no sense, kinda sounds sketchy. "

The above is a post Jwmohr made on me;

This has to do with the MKE firearms I was selling... to read the body of this post/thread it makes you look kind of "sketchy" just in your support of someone who has been banned for non-performance. Let see I have been a member here since 2000 never been banned yet. Just thought I would mention it since you took the effort to cast doubt on my character, yet you defend a poster that has been banned.

Sure Roger I know your OLD Timer here also.. thanks for your comment
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:49 AM   #42
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Well That sound like I will not see my money or my drum .I did not order a crankfire for a 1919a4..... I had call and left my number 2-4 time .. I did not think I would see it ..
thank you anyway...
And this is what they are banned ...!!!!
I will have no more to do with this . or them..
I can tell you this when you order something from Gm you get it...
Jwmohr thank you
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:58 AM   #43
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If you have proof that they have your money then it should not be a problem either getting your money back or the product, correct?
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:10 AM   #44
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If you have proof that they have your money then it should not be a problem either getting your money back or the product, correct?
Going to have the wife call her cc this week and get the paperwork..
I wish it was that easy... I had just worte it off as a lost's...
I talk with jame's at the oklahoma show about the drum and if they had any problems he also show it to bill fleming at the time . but I did not order any crankfire for a 1919a4..
kind of funny he as me down for that...
oh well...
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:03 AM   #45
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Jeff, I'm sorry they do have an advanced quickbooks set up and they keep all of their invoices. If you can find the proof that you paid for it he said he'd send you two. BTW he said that it wasn't you for the crankfire butt a jeff walthers from Benton Kentucky, totally different Jeff is what is what it sounds like.


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Going to have the wife call her cc this week and get the paperwork..
I wish it was that easy... I had just worte it off as a lost's...
I talk with jame's at the oklahoma show about the drum and if they had any problems he also show it to bill fleming at the time . but I did not order any crankfire for a 1919a4..
kind of funny he as me down for that...
oh well...
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:39 AM   #46
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I don't want to get off on the wrong track, but you should probably make sure you actually paid for one before you making allegations. I've been in their office and it was highly organized, so its hard for me to not take sides on this one. Whatever the case may be that is why i'm doing this in this thread so we can find out if anyone is still owed a drum, so look i'm on your side we'll get it figured out.

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Well we will see Iam going to have the wife try and get the infor from the cc.
so now it a Jeff Walthers not Jeff Walters how can that get mix up ... sound like Iam not getting my drum...
I just would like to know how many more menbers are not getting there..

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Old 11-04-2009, 03:55 PM   #47
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You may notice I scrubbed a few posts. I don't want this to turn into a dogpile. So far, it looks as though AA is actually shipping mags to people that prepaid a long time ago. Those of you that did, send me a PM when you get them. So far, I know Roger has received one, there are 3 others I know of that have not as of yet.

But I've discussed this with the other mods, and if the other members that paid for drum mags way back when in that group buy do not get either their orders filled or refunds, then links to AA drum magazine sales, reviews of the drum magazine, and discussions of any future AA products will be deleted. It sounds like it's a good product, hopefully they will have the integrity to fulfill their prior obligations.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:57 PM   #48
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Thank you Aviator Dave, I believe that is more than an appropriate step to take. However we will need to establish who is owed, and go from there. I know this is Allied's only market for this product, so it is detrimental that they fulfill all their obligations. We should probably give people some sort of time frame to respond?
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:26 PM   #49
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Thank you Aviator Dave, I believe that is more than an appropriate step to take. However we will need to establish who is owed, and go from there. I know this is Allied's only market for this product, so it is detrimental that they fulfill all their obligations. We should probably give people some sort of time frame to respond?
A time frame? Sure. That's fair. I know for a fact several members paid for one in September, 2007 and to date haven't received it. I'll round down and say that's 2 years. It is only fair that they be allowed 2 years to produce a credit card statement showing the purchase.

But that word you used, detrimental - In the words of Inigo Montoya - "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:17 AM   #50
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I'm involved for two reasons, one he's hooked me up on several occasions and two he wants me to get this cleared up and if I do I can hooked up with something I want really bad, and no its not crack. This is not only beneficial to the members of this board, if they are owed than they can get what they are rightly deserved and I can get what I want. Two years sure, whatever works i'd rather sooner, but aviator dave I have to follow by your rules, so i have no say in what you choose.


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You say the owner of AA is your friend, but you don't drink beer with him on Fridays? You sure seem to have an awful lot of knowledge on the accounting practices and status of the missing drums..... Sounds like a pretty good "friendship" to me.
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